Reply To: PHEV such high AP’s

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Glos Guy
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    It will be interesting to see what happens to the APs on PHEVs this year.

    I can’t help but feel that the recently announced plan to impose a pence per mile surcharge on PHEV drivers in two years time (which is only 1.5p a mile initially, but will inevitably rise in the future) is going to slow the speed of PHEV take up. Also, the U.K. will have no option but to move the 2030/35 changeover dates back if and when the EU moves back to 2040, as it would be economically damaging for us to be an outlier (not that our current government understands economics 🙄). Manufacturers may have to start throwing even bigger incentives than they currently do in order to persuade people, which could flow through into APs.

    As a PHEV driver myself, I would urge people to think carefully before switching and to do the maths which, as with EVs, needs to be based on real world, not claimed, range. For journeys that we can do in EV mode only, it works out at the equivalent of 80mpg (we don’t have a discounted electricity tariff). Not as cheap as an EV (which would be a much better option for those who can charge at home and don’t do long journeys) but cheaper than a normal ICE car. The problem is when the battery is depleted, as you are lugging around a very heavy car with a very modest petrol engine. The end result (in our case) is mpg that is worse than our previous ICE car, which we didn’t have the faff of charging!

    The other factor is that not all PHEVs are the same. Toyota seem to be the best at this and others may be good as well, but our Hyundai PHEV doesn’t seem to be as good as others. Our claimed 38 miles when fully charged is, in reality, less than 30 in the winter. Last night I had to do a 28 mile round trip. The car said I had 38 miles in EV when I started, but the battery was depleted 1 mile before I got home, so 38 miles became 27!