ah @MFillingham, that explains the current low ap so its safe to say it probabley wont be an option come next year. so it looks like sticking to hybrids. the problem with home charging for me is the distance i am from the road 20 odd metres and thats owned by my landlords and the council so i am having to deal with 2 entities and when the dropped kerb alone is nigh on 5k it aint cheap. i have asked for details of applying for grants but it aint going to be quick maybe for the car after next lol.