Reply To: How are you setting up your EV

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Rene
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    Rene the only thing I would say to that is on Ours (not sure if this is all) but between eco normal and power the bhp from motor is adjusted so you have to weigh up load as too heavy and eco will labour whereas power at full bhp will always consume more so it’s a balance you just find with use. But your quite correct it’s if you learned engine braking except much much smoother

    It appears that indeed, in Eco for some reason Peugeot is reducing torque as well. I find that rather stupid (and potentially dangerous if you’re towing for example) – but you’re right. Although, if you push the pedal down all the way, it “unlocks” full engine power as well.

    That being said: it’s wrong to say that full bhp will always consume more. It will not, in an EV. All that matters is the efficiency of the motor, that doesn’t change with output. They probably reduce the torque by restricting max voltage to the motor – something that you can do by being easy on the throttle pedal too, since that’s what your foot controls. So, while you’re correct, it doesn’t actually matter – there’s no difference between restricting torque and adjusting throttle curve. The outcome is exactly the same. Hard for me to explain since english isn’t my mother tongue, but in the end, in an EV you adjust voltage to the motor with the throttle pedal (unlike in a car, where multiple things get adjusted, like air intake etc). Lower voltage = lower torque. Lower throttle (or adjusted throttle curve) = lower voltage = lower torque.

    .. does that make sense?

    In the end though, even assuming that doesn’t happen (which it does) – i’m not even 100% sure it’d be an upside. I can only go by what people on speakEV say, they don’t observe any gains in range through eco over normal – potentially because you also limit your regeneration that way by coasting more, rather than regenerating. You could make that work, by switching modes constantly (driving eco, then switching to normal for downhill stuff etc), but i’d love to see a spreadsheet of how much (if at all) eco saves over normal.

    I’ll certainly be doing that in the GTE once we have it, actually curious/interested. Could only find it for ICE vehicles (and unsurprisingly, doesn’t actually make a difference there for people who drive reasonably) – it certainly could be that i’m mistaken and it’s vastly different in an EV.

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