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Yes a granny charger (three pin plug) would do the job nicely.
Octopus Go would probably give you the cheapest deal at 8.5p per kw. If you can do your washings, dishwasher etc during the cheap period you will be charged 8.5p from 00:30 till 05:30.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.As was mentioned by others, don’t bother with a charger for a PHEV, especially since you pay out of pocket for it.
It would only make sense if your next lease is an EV, but in that case, you should just wait until then and get the free charger through MB.
Energy prices depend on your location, what’s cheapest for one guy might not be the best choice for you.
I don’t know what car you got, but take your battery size and divide it by 2.3, that gives you a rough estimate on how long you’d charge on the granny charger. You keep a PHEV plugged in over night, a granny charger will charge it to full in 5-7 hours (unless it’s like one of these new long range PHEVs with 120+ miles range).
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.iv ordered a hyundai santa fe phev
13.8kwh battery, around 11kwh usable (you can never fully drain a battery in any PH/EV).
So it’ll charge around 5.5 hours on a granny charger from empty to 100%.
Personally, i’d not get a charger for that.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.@Rugbyleague do Eon differentiate between plug in hybrids and full BEVs. Most people with a plug in hybrid will have a granny charger and with Octopus it’s unlikely you will get onto Intelligent Octopus Go, the 7p per kWh option, without a n ev charger.
That’s a really good price you are getting and I think they pay more for solar as well.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.@Rugbyleague do Eon differentiate between plug in hybrids and full BEVs. Most people with a plug in hybrid will have a granny charger and with Octopus it’s unlikely you will get onto Intelligent Octopus Go, the 7p per kWh option, without a n ev charger. That’s a really good price you are getting and I think they pay more for solar as well.
EON isn’t intelligent, more like Octopus Go, but with longer hours, so can be used with anything.
Edit: I’m wrong, EON also do smart drive…
I’ve just changed from Eon Next Drive which charged 6.7p Kw between midnight and 07.00 to a Smart tariff (smart tarriff still has 6.5p charging between midnight and 06.00 but also has smart charging through the day aswell).
We’ve got 2 Evs, solar and batteries so I am hoping they all play nicely with the new tarriff.
I also get paid 15.5p per Kilowatt to export too……..
I have solar and home batteries also but getting them to work seamlessly is near impossible. I’m investigating Home Assistant to set up control of the above plus EV charging and running my air source heat pump.
Im going to open a thread on “Off Topic” to pick the brains of anyone who has done it previously.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.I have solar and home batteries also but getting them to work seamlessly is near impossible. I’m investigating Home Assistant to set up control of the above plus EV charging and running my air source heat pump. Im going to open a thread on “Off Topic” to pick the brains of anyone who has done it previously.
Good idea!
In big handfuls because my export pays more than my overnight cost to charge, I charge 2 evs and 2 batteries overnight, then top batteries up with solar and export during the day. Don’t really need the benefits of a smart tariff……….but just wanted to try it!
The thing about solar production, or selling back power from your home battery, is that unless you have a 3 phase power supply when you are sending power back to the grid you can’t import cheap electricity from the grid. This is a problem especially in summer, depending on the size of your solar system, when it’s likely you will be generating power, and sending to the grid, for most of the day.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Not sure I quite understand what you are trying to say, I import cheaply from the grid (20kw of battery, 77kw ev 61kw ev) at 6.5p per Kw.
Solar + battery run my house for the rest of the day exporting to the grid when in surplus (export =15.5p per kw).
Now I am on a smart tariff I want to see if the house batteries can make use of the smart charge aswell as both cars!
Not sure I understand?
I import cheap electricity at 6.5p per Kw between midnight and 06.00am.
My 2 house batteries (20kw) and 2 Evs (140Kw) are set to charge using the cheap electricity.
During the day solar and batteries run my house, I export to the grid at 15.5p when I have surplus.
@Rugbyleague I’m no expert but the way I run my system is all solar is sold back to the grid. I charge my 48kwh batteries at night on cheap rate and sell any energy left in the batteries back to the grid @ 15p. I never charge my batteries with solar as it’s cheaper to fully charge them at night.
Most UK houses use less than 10kw of energy to run a house so your battery should have spare electricity to sell back to the grid at a profit, but at 7p and sell at 15.
when you are selling your energy, solar or battery, back to the grid you can’t import any additional free slots of cheap energy without the faff of setting your solar to fill the battery and stopping your battery selling to the grid. So most people in our situation don’t get the additional cheap slots during the day.
Home Assistant however can do this for you, so I’m told, and that why I’m looking to get it installed so I don’t need to mess about with my system.
I hope that makes sense 🤞 lol
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.It’s not physically possible to import and export simultaneously as you would observe, the battery discharges to the car first and then the grid takes over.
Charging the battery and car simultaneously from the grid during off peak hours and running the house during the day from solar battery, is not importing and exporting simultaneously.
As @Brydo say’s you need 3/poly phase to export and import simultaneously.
@Brydo have a look at Netzero app, it can be used to stop the battery from charging the car when for example Octopus schedule a charge outside the cheap rate window, as it’s not the best use of energy to charge from the battery during offpeak hours, as the charge/discharge will only be round c85% efficient.
Can’t remember if you can control you H) from it, rather than opening another layer of complexity with Home Assistant – Although on the positive side, you will be able to automate your house😂
I will have a look at that Kezo 👍
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.I had a Quick Look at the app and it refers specifically to Tesla cars. Does it work with other cars?
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Carried out a search and it’s only comparable with Tesla’s 😞
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Carried out a search and it’s only comparable with Tesla’s
Ok wasn’t sure, it an app or similar by name I have always known about, but never been near a Tesla😂
@Rugbyleague I’m no expert but the way I run my system is all solar is sold back to the grid. I charge my 48kwh batteries at night on cheap rate and sell any energy left in the batteries back to the grid @ 15p. I never charge my batteries with solar as it’s cheaper to fully charge them at night. Most UK houses use less than 10kw of energy to run a house so your battery should have spare electricity to sell back to the grid at a profit, but at 7p and sell at 15. when you are selling your energy, solar or battery, back to the grid you can’t import any additional free slots of cheap energy without the faff of setting your solar to fill the battery and stopping your battery selling to the grid. So most people in our situation don’t get the additional cheap slots during the day. Home Assistant however can do this for you, so I’m told, and that why I’m looking to get it installed so I don’t need to mess about with my system. I hope that makes sense 🤞 lol
Ahhh got it now and absolutely understand……yes I hadn’t thought of that.
There will be a way of informing the battery of cheap electricity being supplied through a code. Off to find out…..
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