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- March 23, 2025 at 4:04 pm#299902
For those of you that were up and about early this morning, there was a really good article on BBC News about safety features in new cars. Most days someone on here asks how do you turn off this or that ‘bleep’ and it seems this has become annoying to most new car buyers.
On the feature there was a motoring journalist and the lead researcher for Which. Both seemed to feel that ‘features’ were taking over. The Which reported that over half the British public felt that ‘safety features’ were designed for the Autobahn and not the British roads.
It should still be available on iPlayer, I think it started about 07:20 this morning. I should add that I was still tucked up in bed and only learned of the article because I’m always moaning about there being too many gadgets in new cars.Mother Nature don't draw straight lines, We're broken moulds in a grand design, We look a mess but we're doing fine, We're card carrying lifelong members of the Union Of Different Kinds..........
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- March 23, 2025 at 5:36 pm #299910
I like some of the driver aids (blind spot assist etc) but it’s all the ruddy bings and bongs that drive me to distraction. Why our Hyundai has to bing 4 times every time I exceed the speed limit by 1 mph is completely beyond me. Once would be sufficient – as would a warning that only alerts me when say 5mph over the speed limit.
March 23, 2025 at 5:37 pm #299911For those of you that were up and about early this morning, there was a really good article on BBC News about safety features in new cars. Most days someone on here asks how do you turn off this or that ‘bleep’ and it seems this has become annoying to most new car buyers. On the feature there was a motoring journalist and the lead researcher for Which. Both seemed to feel that ‘features’ were taking over. The Which reported that over half the British public felt that ‘safety features’ were designed for the Autobahn and not the British roads. It should still be available on iPlayer, I think it started about 07:20 this morning. I should add that I was still tucked up in bed and only learned of the article because I’m always moaning about there being too many gadgets in new cars.
I guess it depends on the role of the safety feature. I test drove the Toyota Bz4x but the constant beeping from the driver safety system really put me off.
I believe that all new cars have the new speed warning alarm, well mine does, and whilst it can be jarring it can remind you that you are above the speed limit and it does slow you down.
I think things like Blind Spot warnings and RCTA should be standard on all cars.
March 23, 2025 at 5:39 pm #299912I like some of the driver aids (blind spot assist etc) but it’s all the ruddy bings and bongs that drive me to distraction. Why our Hyundai has to bing 4 times every time I exceed the speed limit by 1 mph is completely beyond me. Once would be sufficient – as would a warning that only alerts me when say 5mph over the speed limit.
You can turn it off I believe but you have to do it every time you get in the car. In mine, there is the option to cancel the alarm off as soon as it beeps.
March 23, 2025 at 5:45 pm #299913I like some of the driver aids (blind spot assist etc) but it’s all the ruddy bings and bongs that drive me to distraction. Why our Hyundai has to bing 4 times every time I exceed the speed limit by 1 mph is completely beyond me. Once would be sufficient – as would a warning that only alerts me when say 5mph over the speed limit.
You can turn it off I believe but you have to do it every time you get in the car. In mine, there is the option to cancel the alarm off as soon as it beeps.
Yes you can turn it off but, as you say, you have to do it every time you drive it 🤬
March 23, 2025 at 7:56 pm #299916My mind is trained, to press the mute button to disable speed limit alert, as I’m pulling off he drive and to turn off LKA before getting to the end of the the cul de sac. From then on a blissful journey awaits 😂
March 24, 2025 at 9:32 am #299937Too many distractions? Bloody right! Not just beeps and bongs, either, Much more distracting and dangerous are those “safety” features which take over the steering and brakes when their computer says so. Well, the compu say-so is often well wrong. Recently had a proximity sensor (VW ID.3) detach from its mount which caused permanent, loud bleeping and emergency-stop brakes all the time. Also had emergency stop in ordinary traffic (VW T-Roc) for absolutely no apparent reason (wrong sort of leaves?). Lane-following another nightmare: taking over steering on simple single-carriageway.
So, have to spend around a minute turning off all those factors and a number of others before setting off. A right pain in the posterior but safer than being pushed into a collision by a computer that got it wrong.
March 24, 2025 at 10:22 am #299940Guess we got the EU to thank for all this and as we are in Europe, it makes no sense to build cars without it all for the UK market.
At least we don’t have alcohol interlock installation facilitation is mandatory for new vehicles (from 2024) and new vehicle types (from 2022) to enhance road safety by preventing driving with excessive alcohol. These devices require drivers to blow into an in-car Breathalyzer before starting the ignition, every time you stop for 15mins I believe. I don’t drink as my meds say not to and I do get it can be an issue, but seriously over kill, like all the other beeps bongs and monitoring systems. Plus they ok when working but what when they faulty. Each car is different. I am used to them and us pilot or adaptive cruise a lot and it does have bonuses, like adapt to speed limit and keeping you in lane on longer journeys, but still if the road is straight for to long. Please hold the steering wheel and then there’s bad weather and how will driverless cars cope with that, they won’t. They are aids but now they’re on as default they can be dangerous in some situations.
Computer’s are only as smart as the code and what they can see via cameras and radar etc and sometimes they get it wrong, sometimes though they work and people think they are faulty but it was their driving that caused it to react.
Personally I have a issue everyday 1 or 2 mins from my house, the car thinks I enter a 20mph zone, when it’s 30mph no signs no school nearby. It only happens one way and every time. so then its beeping like crazy, so I turn it off. It’s a button on steering but I changed that to OPD on or off. So 2 clicks on the screen then it’s off, but then the driver monitor system doesn’t like me looking at the screen and flashes up a warning and beeps. So then that’s now turned off, but it’s easy enough to do.. just everytime over and over. At least the steering assist is fixed to the steering wheel and can be easily turned off or on when required.
Although when on, to override you indicate.
I sometimes wonder if they are all part of a wider picture to discourage car use. What’s next a swab, as some maybe drug drivers. A scan of your face and license to make sure you are the driver and a checks on if the car is insured, taxed and has a mot, before it can be driven. Sorry we cannot connect to the external network at this time. So please use an alternative method of transport. Sorry the roads are busy and your journey is not deemed essential. How far will the technocrats take it.
ADAS stands for Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems, and it refers to electronic systems in a vehicle that use advanced technologies to assist the driver, enhancing safety and improving the driving experience.
Here’s a more detailed breakdown of ADAS:
What it is:
ADAS are a suite of technologies that use sensors, cameras, and other systems to monitor the vehicle’s surroundings and assist the driver in various tasks.
Examples of ADAS features:
Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC): Automatically maintains a set speed and distance from the vehicle ahead.
Automatic Parking Assist (APA): Helps with parking manoeuvres.
Blind Spot Detection: Alerts the driver to vehicles in their blind spot.
Lane Keeping Assist: Helps the vehicle stay within its lane.
Emergency Brake Assist: Can automatically apply the brakes in an emergency.
Traffic Sign Recognition: Identifies and displays traffic signs.
How it works:
ADAS systems use sensors (like radar, lidar, and cameras) to gather information about the vehicle’s surroundings, process this data, and then provide alerts or take actions to assist the driver.
Levels of Automation:
The SAE International J3016 standard defines six levels of driving automation, ranging from Level 0 (no automation) to Level 5 (full automation).
Level 0: No automation, driver is fully responsible.
Level 1: Driver assistance, e.g., adaptive cruise control.
Level 2: Partial driving automation, e.g., highway assist.
Level 3: Conditional driving automation.
Level 4: High driving automation.
Level 5: Full driving automation.
Benefits:
ADAS systems can improve safety, reduce driver fatigue, and enhance the overall driving experience.But also annoys the hell out of you.. Especially my daughter as everytime the audio playing is muted also and some I cannot alter or change.
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March 25, 2025 at 5:26 pm #300021If all the bings & bongs help stop me, or another driver, killing someone , or helping someone new onto disability benefits – then I’m all in favour.
March 27, 2025 at 8:51 am #300112Sadly and ironically, I reckon the bings and bongs are more likely to threaten the safety of you or another driver. As soon as one goes bing or bong, you have to take eyes and attention off the road and scan your screens – up to three or more of them in different places. If they call for an adjustment of something then you may find yourself scrolling through and stabbing at the touchscreen(s) – diverting eyes and attention further and longer from the road.
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