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- December 28, 2023 at 5:05 pm#252469
Had front tyre explode xmas eve midnight on way home from midnight mass ,2 friends ,AGAIN NO SPARE WHEEL how long would I wait for rac etc xmas eve, had to limp home ,glad it wasn’t far ,I have to say disabled drivers cars should have spare wheel ,one can’t always pay extra to have.
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- December 28, 2023 at 6:26 pm #252503
and if the disabled driver isn’t physically capable of changing the wheel this achieves what exactly?
December 28, 2023 at 6:30 pm #252504I had friends capable but no spare wheel ,the rac will change the wheel when eventually arrive , but not supply it ,maybe you now understand.
December 28, 2023 at 6:32 pm #252505All this is quicker than waiting to be towed to quickfit.
December 28, 2023 at 6:35 pm #252506Remember this was christmas eve heading into christmas day
December 28, 2023 at 6:39 pm #252507I had friends capable but no spare wheel ,the rac will change the wheel when eventually arrive , but not supply it ,maybe you now understand.
Most spare wheels supplied with cars nowadays tend to be a temporary solution to get you to the nearest tyre repair specialist to have the damaged tyre fixed / replaced.
Having a spare achieves what options for a disabled person?
1: hope you actually have someone with you not only physically capable but confident enough to change it so you can drive yourself to the nearest tyre repair centre
2: Let the RAC come out and change it for the temporary spare then follow you to the tyre centre to make sure you get there ok
3: Let the RAC tow you directly to a tyre replacement centre or your final destination
Having a spare wheel on most modern cars only gives you a very temporary option not a complete replacement until you feel like getting the main one fixed
December 28, 2023 at 7:27 pm #252511Yes a temporary GET ME HOME then get to the tyre repair place , not stuck on side busy road ., OK dear person we have made our thoughts I not reply to anymore keep well enjoy
December 28, 2023 at 7:34 pm #252513Our car has a full size spare wheel, it was originally ordered by a company car driver who needed a spare, but the car was cancelled due to Covid lockdown, we were lucky to order and collect the in stock car in a matter of weeks. You can buy a spare wheel with a tyre for around £100, there are a few companies selling them.
December 28, 2023 at 7:41 pm #252514Our previous Motability vehicle did came with the jack and wheel brace but no spare wheel, we purchased a genuine second-hand full size spare wheel, fortunately we never used it, our present vehicle has a space saver spare wheel.
You can purchase a spare wheel kit complete with jack and brace online.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
December 28, 2023 at 9:13 pm #252522- If I had spare wheel xmas eve my friend or rac when ,if, came would of got me home ,then to quickfit when could ,so we did not have to sit on side busy road in dark waiting for assistance xmas eve , that’s my point , interesting jojoe that can buy temp wheel ,thankyou.
- It was an unpleasant event for disabled person & his friends on way home from midnight mass at cathederal. Bless you all. Happy New year.
December 28, 2023 at 9:17 pm #252523December 28, 2023 at 9:27 pm #252524Not having a spare, saves the manufacturer money, weight and better drip of fuel economy, so vehices can meet the strigent rules. Almost always available as an option at dealer level or secondhand.
I agree though, these tyre kits are useless in the even of a blow out, as are runflats!
December 28, 2023 at 10:15 pm #252531and if the disabled driver isn’t physically capable of changing the wheel this achieves what exactly?
They are able to call the RAC and have their tyre changed.
December 29, 2023 at 5:08 am #252541and if the disabled driver isn’t physically capable of changing the wheel this achieves what exactly?
They are able to call the RAC and have their tyre changed.
Which if it’s one of the skinny kind supplied with most new cars today (if at all) it is only there to allow you to drive to the nearest tyre centre.
So as you know we get the RAC on Motability so where is the logic in having the RAC come out to fit a tyre that they are then going to have to escort you to the nearest tyre centre to immediately have removed again. Quicker for them just to load you up and tow you there without touching the wheel.
A lot of cars nowadays simply aren’t designed with the bootspace for a full size spare tyre but I suppose you could buy yourself one and make sure its secured with an approved fixing kit – last thing you want is a spare tyre thats not designed to be in your boot in the first place flying forward during an impact.
December 29, 2023 at 8:48 am #252542That is the theory…I have, like I am sure many others, experienced the reality. A while back I had a flat, had to wait 2 hours for the RAC to get to me, they spent 15 minutes telling me I would have to wait for a recovery truck to pick me up because they didn’t have any suitable spares available. I then waited another 3 hours for a recovery truck and finally got home at 1.30am. Rang quick fit mobile and a couple of days later and got it sorted. A space saver would have helped avoid all the stress of waiting on the side of the road.
December 29, 2023 at 9:28 am #252543Which if it’s one of the skinny kind supplied with most new cars today it is only there to allow you to drive to the nearest tyre centre.
A Spacesaver? These are good to keep on until you can get it changed at your convenience. Just don’t go over 50 miles per hour.
December 29, 2023 at 10:00 am #252544Why did your tyre “explode”.?
It either takes a liot of damage to the tyre or wheel for ut to explode.
Disabled peopke are in no better position than many abled people, many able can’t change a tyre, many single women at night are just as vulnerable.
If ut was such an issue to you, you could put your hand in your pocket and do as I dud and spec a spare at time on ordering, or afterwards.
If you couldn’t be bothered to wait for the rescue services, again, use your phone to call an uber.
December 29, 2023 at 10:21 am #252548Several folk I know have bought themselves spare tyres just for this reason, some full sized, while some have went for space savers just to stay mobile.
Maybe it’s something to consider when ordering a car… £200 for a spare along with (or instead of) £2,000 for a Tech pack
December 29, 2023 at 11:06 am #252554Welldone rohdgie ,you understand thankyou , I’ve had blowout before maybe something on road ,happened 11.30 am. Rac arrive 1800 pm had not kit to fix or toe ,waited for recovery got home 19.30 pm all that time on busy road part in dark , you need spare ,temp or full. Thankyou last massage happy new year to all .
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December 29, 2023 at 11:29 am #252559Disagree. I don’t have, nor do i want a full sized spare (or even space saver) in the boot.
It’s pointless weight that i have to carry around, in 30 years of driving i never had “a tyre explode”. If, against all odds with modern tyres, i have one in the future, i’ll either wait for recovery, or park the car and call an uber and sort it out the next day.
If you can’t live without one, a space saver is £80-£100. Get one.
I feel like it’s rather odd to argue that “a disabled person should be entitled to a free one” when there’s plenty of abled people that can’t change a wheel for a variety of reasons. Be it a young driver who simply doesn’t know how to (and doesn’t feel comfortable trying), be it a single woman/girl, etc. pp.
Ask yourself, what options would a young female driver have in that exact situation. And then make the case as to why you should get preferential treatment. Because genuinely, i don’t see it.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.December 29, 2023 at 1:27 pm #252573Before purchasing a spare wheel/space saver make sure it is a genuine manufactures item, I may be wrong but you may invalidate the manufactures warranty or Motability insurance always best to check ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
December 29, 2023 at 11:23 pm #252623Similar to this, I had a nightmare yesterday. My mother in law died last week and we had set aside yesterday to get a lot of things done prior to going away on holiday next week. When we arrived at her house (very remote and 40 miles from our home) I noticed that one tyre was really flat. It must have just deflated as I hadn’t had a warning. The car has no spare wheel or space saver and, annoyingly, BMW no longer fit run-flats as standard (they were absolutely brilliant).
Called Motability tyre line and was told RAC would take two and a half hours to get to us. I told them that wasn’t acceptable for two reasons. Firstly, my wife was in the car (full time wheelchair user), we couldn’t get access to a toilet and we had an appointment 90 minutes later with a registrar to register the death. The said that they’d sort out a taxi but by then inputting the job again as an urgent priority the RAC arrival time suddenly changed to 30 minutes.
RAC guy turns up, pulls out a nail, does a repair, blows up the tyre and then hears air hissing – from another hole (this time with nothing in it). Repairs the second hole. Didn’t seal. Tried again. Still didn’t seal. As a last resort he squirts the can of BMW repair gunk into the tyre and that worked, so we could drive again. Full marks to the guy – he was great.
I then remembered that Kwik Fit never seem to have tyres that I need in stock, so I phoned the one nearest to us and, thankfully, they had a BMW specific Bridgestone that matches the other 3 on the car, so I booked an appointment for today. I wasn’t impressed that it took Motability over half an hour to authorise the tyre as it wasted my time and the fitters.
Anyway, it’s now dawned on me that when we go on holiday next week and I have a car full of suitcases, my wife and her wheelchair, if we have another puncture I don’t have a can of the gunk to do a temporary repair and apparently the RAC don’t carry it. I think I will call Motability next week, but does anyone know if Motability pay for a replacement canister and, if so, can I get the BMW one that was used yesterday or would it be a generic one (I guess they all do the same thing, but it would need to work with the BMW machine that it came with)?
December 30, 2023 at 12:34 am #252627if so, can I get the BMW one that was used yesterday or would it be a generic one (I guess they all do the same thing, but it would need to work with the BMW machine that it came with)?
Genuine canister is about £35 if you have to buy one yourself or you can buy a tyre inflator and sealant can for under a tenner that will do the job. However Motability should replace it for you.
https://news.motability.co.uk/everyday-tips/what-should-you-do-if-you-get-a-puncture-while-driving/
I bought an Airman Req Pilot for my own car a couple years back from Euro car parts. Cost about £25 for pump and sealant, with replacement sealant far cheaper than manufacturers branded stuff. £30 on Amazon currently!
December 30, 2023 at 8:56 am #252631Genuine canister is about £35 if you have to buy one yourself or you can buy a tyre inflator and sealant can for under a tenner that will do the job. However Motability should replace it for you. https://news.motability.co.uk/everyday-tips/what-should-you-do-if-you-get-a-puncture-while-driving/ I bought an Airman Req Pilot for my own car a couple years back from Euro car parts. Cost about £25 for pump and sealant, with replacement sealant far cheaper than manufacturers branded stuff. £30 on Amazon currently!
Thanks. I’d need the £35 one on Amazon as the £30 only covers up to 17” rims. I’ll need to check whether I just need the canister or a new inflator as well. I’ll call Motability and BMW and see what they say. I’ve got until Tuesday to get something before we go away.
December 30, 2023 at 10:21 am #252632Update – spoke to Motability this morning and they will pay for the replacement canister, so I’ve called my BMW dealer and they are sorting out the authorisation so that I can collect it on Tuesday the day before we go on holiday.
Quite a relief, as a puncture when I have 3 or 4 suitcases, a wheelchair and my wife in the car will be stressful enough as it is, without the added problem of having no means to repair the tyre ?
December 30, 2023 at 11:27 am #252646Update – spoke to Motability this morning and they will pay for the replacement canister, so I’ve called my BMW dealer and they are sorting out the authorisation so that I can collect it on Tuesday the day before we go on holiday. Quite a relief, as a puncture when I have 3 or 4 suitcases, a wheelchair and my wife in the car will be stressful enough as it is, without the added problem of having no means to repair the tyre
Great! At least thats one thing off your mind.
Soz I assumed the one on Amazon woulld cover 19s, so must be adifferent model to the one I have.
Hope you have a good holiday, if I don’t get to speak to you beforehand
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