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i sat in one a couple of weeks ago wigwam and i am arranging a test drive as it may be on my short list i was quite impressed that i could comfortable get in and out. pity the top of the range isnt on the scheme only up to the edge trim.
toyota are also going to do a corolla cross to add to the aygo and the yaris so all their models come as crossovers.
just depends on how long you have to wait lol.
We’ve got a test drive tomorrow. We’ve been offered a Pure Automatic at a good discount from a batch of cars due early November, which is tempting. It’ll be a second car to replace the elderly Jazz, so don’t need much of it. Even the basic Pure trim gets a reversing camera and Apple Carplay/Android Auto. Will let you know how we get on Mitch.
please do wigwam as i was quite pleased that the heating controls were still seperate from the touchy feely bits which i am going to have to try and get used to unless i extend the countryman. i am hoping that the new mini crossover comes out sooner than later and it retains the same system as the countryman. but i suspect it may be too pricey given the ap of the only countryman on the scheme at nearly 4 times the ap i paid.
Well, we drove it. Brilliant car let down by a very noisy engine and a CVT which doesn’t know how to tame it. At constant speed all is fine, but even quite gentle acceleration caused the revs to rise too high and the engine thrum too loud. Very disappointed as the car itself is a peach. Great interior, comfortable seats, surprisingly well controlled suspension for such a small car and fun handling.
By contrast we also drove a Suzuki Ignis whose very similar (but more powerful) engine and gearbox combo behaved impeccably. The gearbox kept the revs in check, increasing as the speed increased and keeping the noise down. The rest of the car couldn’t be more different with the suspension and steering not so great. Still comfortable but lacking the designer interior of the Aygo X. Bigger car. More space and versatile boot / rear seat arrangement.
Whereas the Aygo X is good to look at, the Ignis isn’t. So neither car cut the mustard today. Looks like I’ll be keeping the Jazz a while longer.
We looked at the Aygo X and was a little disappointed. We then looked at the Hyundai i20 which was really good and ordered one. The i20 has a lot of kit for the money and nice wide opening doors
Is the jazz you have an auto. Maybe the problem with the Aygo is it’s only got 72hp and 0 to 60 in 14.8 sec.
So that engine is gonna work hard when accelerating.
Guessing you want something very small to replace the jazz or is it more of the budget as Maybe the clio could be an option is more £££ but is also a hybrid, or something french as they don’t do cvt’s.
New jazz is a hybrid and is nice also, but they more expensive. skoda ain’t doing the city go and i think the up is only manual right now, micra is a cvt so is limited in options.
If you really don’t like the cvt many in reviewers’ just don’t like auto’s full stop but now I need one, it is what it is all are not perfect compared to manuals imo.
Although when they change gears away from the lights, their cars go backwards, mein keep going.
Not that many auto city cars that ain’t ev’s right now or are not cvt’s.
I really did like the smoothness of the cvt in the civic sport we had and got used to it’s flaws. I kind of miss it as the new car ain’t as smooth and often drops down a gear, or up a gear, when you don’t want it to.
Our Jazz has a CVT, rox. We had a Qashqai with CVT too, and the Suzuki we tested was CVT. The problem with the Aygo X is partly because it’s underpowered but also the programming of the CVT seems to make no attempt to control the revs. Even at 30mph a gentle acceleration seemed to make the engine overspeed for the circumstances. And it’s a noisy engine with seemingly little sound insulation in the car.
Aygo is not great it has the same engine from 2005 when it first came out
i20 much better car , but it has a shocking automatic AMT ( automated manual transmission box, with the slowest acceleration of any current new car on the road, fine if you want manual) box, this the sole reason i did not buy it and went with a a Dacia Sandero
@Wigwan,
No sorry didn’t try the auto – my daughter prefers manual. The decider for us was the equipment levels and much more room inside the car
The surprising thing is when you compare the Aygo to the Aygo X. Although the X looks much bigger there is very little between them. e.g. 11 mm ride height and 235 mm in length which isn’t a massive difference.
One of the big advantages is availability, the one my daughter ordered 6 weeks ago is built and on its way and should be available to us at the end of October. The Aygo X was going to be spring next year. But as always it is what best for the lease holder
steve, unfortunately we needed an automatic. As myself33 pointed out, the i20 automated manual box is pretty dire so ruled that car out for us. No matter. I’ll carry on with our 18 year old Jazz. It may be falling to bits but it’s reliable and gets through MOTs….
Better a cvt than one of those automated manual box’s which they’ve put in the new full hybrid Vitara and was another reason I left the scheme when i did as I could get the outgoing MH with the 1.4 boosterjet and the 6 speed auto. Which wasn’t available on the scheme only the FH In auto or the MH in manual. Which for me is no good at all, I also need an auto.
Great that the jazz is still going strong at 18 years.
Personally I think you may as well run it for as long as you can or until sometime you like becomes available. Although it may get harder with more ulez’s and at some point stricter rules, that will force cars of the road.
I’ve come to the conclusion keeping current cars on the road for as long as possible is better for the planet, than replacing them with new ones before their life is over and thats when the repair cost’s are more than the value of the car. Same with changing them on the scheme every 3/5 years. Footprint of a new car is huge, but is good for car sales.
The only other issue I see is if you leave it too long options will be less and less as manufacturers all switch over to hybrids and many just ev’s and many could ditch small city cars altogether and concentrate on more premium products as they no longer have to meet emissions targets setout. So might help if you could consider something nearly new or used rather than new.
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