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We are able to order our new car from a week today. Dead-set on the model, due to towing considerations.
Should I spend my time phoning around the local dealerships, asking them for an AP contribution – or should I just go to my local dealership and cough up the full AP?
The deals I am seeing fall in to two camps:
- “Must be completed by the end of this quarter” – not possible for us, and I’m not keen on waiting until next quarter, just in case the model is taken off the scheme
- Stock vehicles – would they really hold the car for three months, until we can exchange?
I get the impression that there is no incentive to offer a discount for a factory order (or letting us have a “for stock” vehicle that has already been ordered).
Has anyone tried to get an AP contribution in the past? I’d be keen to hear your experiences.
For the record, we are going to order a Hyundai IONIQ 5 N Line.
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Not what your asked but….. I have just read on Google about a Ioniq 5 only getting 100 mile range in hot American weather with a very light caravan attached. Have you researched it enough?
As @kezo says, it’s always better to travel around to dealerships rather than phone them. Many dealerships won’t take phone enquiries seriously and if you are actually in the dealership they will always be more receptive.
I know nothing about towing, but the range limitations of EVs are enough to put me off when you haven’t got anything behind you! As @JMC says, have you done your research? Range is likely to be dire and I’ve no idea how problematic trying to charge a car whilst towing is!
I think we will be ok with the towing range – most of the places we visit are within 120 miles (which should be achievable with 100% charge), and if we go up to 200 miles, it will entail one charge stop each way. We will almost certainly need to unhitch.
Further, we only tow 4-5 times per year, for the vast majority of our driving we will receive all the benefits that EVs bring (including home charging). I feel that is worth the extra pain when towing.
The only other consideration is the CX-60 – but that will be much more expensive to run, will require double the AP and has reports of a clunky, unsettled hybrid system.
with regards to getting a deal – I now need to work up the courage to walk out of (potentially) multiple dealerships of they don’t offer an AP contribution 🙈
thanks all for your replies
Yes kezo, that’s the story. It looks like Matty knows about the lack of range when towing anyway. Cheers for the link so he can at least see the report.
I think we will be ok with the towing range – most of the places we visit are within 120 miles (which should be achievable with 100% charge), and if we go up to 200 miles, it will entail one charge stop each way. We will almost certainly need to unhitch. Further, we only tow 4-5 times per year, for the vast majority of our driving we will receive all the benefits that EVs bring (including home charging). I feel that is worth the extra pain when towing. The only other consideration is the CX-60 – but that will be much more expensive to run, will require double the AP and has reports of a clunky, unsettled hybrid system. with regards to getting a deal – I now need to work up the courage to walk out of (potentially) multiple dealerships of they don’t offer an AP contribution 🙈 thanks all for your replies
Hyundai Ionia 5 has a maximum towing range just over 100 miles in perfect conditions 80/90 miles is more realistic range in warm weather, with an 80% fast charger you are looking at less. A PHEV at the moment is the best option, we tow with a PHEV the only time we refill with petrol is when towing the caravan.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I towed a Lunar Ariva 1tonne caravan with a Ioniq 5 Premium from October to January 25. The Premium has a bit better range than the N line. I am not heavy footed when towing and try to anticipate well ahead. We go away most weekends on Rallies in East Yorkshire and Linconshire with only basic facilities and use V2L when possible depending on how far we have towed. We charge at home with at 6.7p with Eon. Our furthest trip with this van was 65miles to Ripon Race Course in late October, we got 2.2miles per kw going and 1.9miles(windy and colder) on our return mostly A roads and M/way, we used 6kw on V2L.
In January 25 we changed to a Elddis Xplore 586 1.4tonne. Our longest tow with this van was to Worksop 52 miles in early February , we got 2miles per kw going and 1.6miles( much colder and a faster speed) on our return mostly A roads and M/Way, we used 12kw on V2L.
We do limit how far we travel and find plenty of meets we can attend. We have run the the van on electric only (heating and cooking) for the two of us on shorter journeys.
On the rare meet when we had hook up we topped up the car with a small amount without any problem.
Hope this helps you to decide. Any questions just ask.
Hi, as others have said its always better to walk in on your feet, rather than letting your fingers do the walking, if for no other reason than letting them see a big fat commission walk out the door.
Now as for deals, I found this on the www. It’s a starting point
Mellons Bangor: Offers up to £250 Motability Advance Payment Contribution / Cashback for Hyundai Models.
As for you ordering the car, once ordered mb ops will swap your vehicles over as soon as the new one is ready. Be that sooner or later than your hand back date.
Please check with mb ops, I’ve always found them really helpful
Hi BIYT, don’t think you’re right about Motability letting you swap before your end of contract date.
Worth checking.
Regards, wonkyHi BIYT, don’t think you’re right about Motability letting you swap before your end of contract date. Worth checking. Regards, wonky
Good spot. You are quite correct. Motability will not let people collect their new car until the existing lease ends. Dealerships will understand this and generally hold the new car until that date.
I just had a look on the MB website for the cheapest PHEV that can tow our caravan – Skoda Kodiaq for £3500.
I’d rather put the £1300 AP saving, plus the £100s we will save in fuel, towards paying for static caravans whenever we want to go further afield.
I don’t want a “full” or “mild” hybrid, as it will still be 100% powered by petrol, which is a very expensive energy source.
As our current car has done less than 20k miles, we have today arranged to extend our lease for a further two years. I didn’t plan to, as I was really looking forward to getting an EV – but the stress of all this has come at a bad time for us.
Now, at least, we will be free to take dealerships up on their offers on stock vehicles, and we can avoid the awful 3+ month wait for the car to be built.
I realised that, as much as I dislike our current car, it is actually orders of magnitude better than what we would be driving (without turning to finance) if we weren’t lucky enough to have a MB car. I have become numb to the realisation that we have a very capable and desirable motor already, and a break from obsessing over new cars will do us well.
I’m certain I will carry on checking daily at the vehicles added and removed from the scheme – but for the moment, I will concentrate on what really matters.
That sounds like a very wise decision. There have been a few instances on this forum where people have been desperate to get an EV, primarily for the cost savings, but when they describe their situation it is obvious that it wouldn’t be the smartest choice. I was fearful that you might end up in a similar situation.
As you say, the great thing about a lease extension is that you aren’t tied to the full 2 years and you can order a new car at any time, so if something that fits the bill and sets your pulse racing should suddenly appear on the scheme you can pounce. It’s a good position to be in as you can do it on your terms and at your pace. Good luck with everything. As you say, sometimes we have to put these things into perspective.
In 2023 we extended out Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for 24 months, unfortunately Mitsubishi left Europe, MG were given the contract as caretakers, at service and MOT time MG service was absolutely appalling and the manager informed us it Mobility’s contract and nothing to do with us.For we decided to change, strangely the MG dealership shortly closed down.
As regards a full EV in theory and financially it would suit our needs, are we ready not so sure.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Towing is more than one thing, what were these americans towing? Their caravan/mobile homes are typically MUCH bigger than ours.
What roads, hilly?
How hot? usually the UK doesn’t get anywhere near US temps either.
Looking around again depending on towing full caravan, camper, trailer etc you’re generally looking at around 2 miles/kwh at 65mph according to those who do it. Don’t forget n line has 83kwh battery so say a towing range of 160 miles?
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