MONEY OFF EXTRAS

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  • #119046 Reply

    matt

    hi I orded some extra stuff with my bmw thay said I would get 10-20% has anyone els got money off extras and how much thanks

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  • #119056 Reply

    Wigwam
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    The listed price of manufacturer fitted extras includes VAT but the car is invoiced VAT free, so the price we pay for extras should be VAT free too.  Any dealer that doesn’t discount the price of extras is profiteering at our expense and we should get about 17% off at least.

    On our BMW we got 20%.

    #119057 Reply

    joss
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    Hi Matt

    When I ordered my X2 and the sports pack, I got nothing in terms of discount. However. It is down to each dealership whether they will offer any discount on extras.

    It is always worth asking though. Just make sure you get it in writing

    Joss
    Current car BMW X2 2.0 Sport sDrive Auto 2019
    Last car Ford Focus Titanium 1.5 TDCI
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    #119059 Reply

    Landyman

    I managed to get 20% discount on extras on my X1.

    #119060 Reply

    Landyman

    Joss is right about getting it in writing. When I picked up the car the guy I was dealing with had left.

    #119061 Reply

    Pete
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    Soper BMW at Lincoln offered us 10% off any extras.

    #119063 Reply

    Wigwam
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    Then, Pete, in my view they are pocketing an additional 6.77% of the price of the extras on top of what Motability pay them for the car.  I would find that unacceptable.

    #119070 Reply

    joss
    Participant

    @wigwam

    You know I never even considered the issue of Vat free on extras. Thanks for that Wigwam.

    Joss
    Current car BMW X2 2.0 Sport sDrive Auto 2019
    Last car Ford Focus Titanium 1.5 TDCI
    Builder of Gaming PC's
    "It is a great ability to be able to conceal one's ability."

    #119073 Reply

    Ade

    If you look closely, there is no distinction between extras and the car price.

    The invoice billed to Motability includes the cost of the car and the extras.
    Do not think HMRC would let car companies cheat on VAT…that is not going to happen.

    Bean counters dont let stuff like that get past them…lol.

    Besides – the whole motability scheme is a Govt subsidy to the car industry disguised as a charitable trust.

    On my car, metallic paint is included. What is NOT included is Pearlescent paint, which is about 750 or something. The dealer only charges 150 for that option on Motability.

     

    #119077 Reply

    Wigwam
    Participant

    Ade, Motability buys cars VAT free. It only pays VAT when it sells the car on.  That’s the deal it has with HMRC.  So any extras should also be VAT free when you pay for them.

    #119093 Reply

    Ade

    Yup motability is a charity and it doesnt buy and sell, it will act as an agent for a lease company. It is essentially a broker..

    #119094 Reply

    Wigwam
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    Not really Ade.  Motability Operations Ltd is the leasing company which is wholly owned by Motability the charity to whom it is responsible.  It operates solely to supply cars to us.

    #119155 Reply

    matt

    in my invoice it says car price£23158.33 vat £4631.67 £466.67 plus £93.33 vat and tech pack £1250 plus £250 vat if they don’t pay vat I would exspect to get £250 off the tech pack

    #119169 Reply

    elly

    Oh when we got our last car we got some extras and didn’t get discount. I’m going to dig out the invoice, I don’t expect to pay V A T if they are not having to pass it to HMRC

    #119175 Reply

    Littledave

    Not correct. The dealers invoice to Motability includes VAT. Options and extras are invoiced directly to the customer including VAT.

    I worked in many dealerships as an accountant.

    #119176 Reply

    Littledave

    No, Motability Operations Ltd is owned by the four big banks, not Motability Charity. No dividends are declared, all profits being reinvested into the scheme or donations to Motability Charity.

    #119177 Reply

    Littledave

    Sorry you are wrong. I worked in the motor trade as an accountant for many years. All invoices to Motability include Vat.

    #119211 Reply

    Jamie

    Bmw will give you the discount motability get off the actual value of the car and that will be the percentage of discount you get off extras, had the bmw 120iM for a month back in 2018 which I was going through the hassle of pip assessment and even with strong evidence from all 5 of my specialists stating that I needed my car to get around they said I didn’t and had to appeal, sadly at the time it scared me to taking the 2k one of payment to get me back on the road. But on that car I added a few extras and got the 25% discount motability got off the vehicle transfered to the extras.

    #119222 Reply

    Wigwam
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    Littledave, what I said about the VAT on extras I was told when I got our last car two years ago.  Apologies to everyone if I was wrong and raised people’s expectations.  And yes the banks hold the shareholding of Motability Operations but it is answerable to the Charity – I was attempting to correct Ade’s interpretation that Motability is essentially a broker.  Sorry for causing confusion (and believing what car salesmen say).

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