[RXT]

Hi again

 

Our first motability car is finally on the way! I should be really happy and very grateful for the scheme. The reality is the DWP were a nightmare and most manufacturer’s seem to treat customers of the scheme as if they are less important.

I posted here last year as we were looking to get a car on the scheme. Our DLA claim was sent to the DWP in November 2020. It wouldn’t be until September 2022 that a 2nd tier tribunal would finally award us the higher rate mobility. I thought that would be the end of it. Unfortunately as it took almost 2 years to win the case, it meant we didn’t have enough time left on our claim to get a motability car! We had to wait 2 more months until November 2022 before our new claim form arrived. Completing the form immediately, it would be another 3 months before DWP even looked at our forms! Thankfully in February 2023 we were re-awarded mobility and finally able to order a car (27 months later)…

I phoned 14 different dealerships (some multiple times) from 5 different manufacturers I had shortlisted. Unfortunately only 2 dealerships bothered returning my calls. I wasn’t able to test drive any of the cars I’d shortlisted which is really frustrating and some of those cars were even removed from the scheme.

Finally we’ve decided to go with the Peugeot 3008 GT 300. The dealer said it could be anywhere from 6 months to 18 months if placing a new order (we can’t wait that long as we’ve been down to 1 car on and off for the past 2+ years). The car in the showroom looked stunning in red and there were some nice optional extras I liked in the brochure, but we had the choice of either a white one or a black one (both arriving in the UK within 4 weeks). I’m really not a fan of white cars and the black one didn’t look a patch on the red either, but it did have a couple of extras I wanted (and some I didn’t) so bit the bullet and ordered it. The AP with the extras was absolutely eye-watering, but I didn’t want a sluggish suv.

As long and as frustrating as it has been, I am glad the scheme is here. Despite the fact we haven’t quite got what we wanted, the scheme was really our only option, as we need to pass affordability in December for our mortgage and banks won’t count the DLA as income anyway.

If anyone’s interested I’ll post some pictures up when it arrives. Long and painful process but glad to be in the club so to speak.

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[Rbdo]

Wow I’m sorry for your troubles. I empathise. We have had very similar experiences. I hope from here on it’s plain sailing and you enjoy your 300hp!

[gilders]

The Peugeot 3008 GT 300 isn’t available on Motability. Unless I’m misunderstanding something??

[gilders]

“as we need to pass affordability in December for our mortgage and banks won’t count the DLA as income anyway.”

Don’t do what I did when applying for mortgage. I entered DLA as income and payments to Motability as outgoing. Understandably, they couldn’t use DLA as income BUT they refused to remove the Motability outgoing payments. As much as I explained that it was impossible to have an outgoing payment to Motability without being eligible for DLA (or PIP now) they wouldn’t remove it.

[kezo]

gilders wrote:

The Peugeot 3008 GT 300 isn’t available on Motability. Unless I’m misunderstanding something??

Its not as far as I’m aware and can’t remember if it was on the scheme in Q1

[MFillingham]

I can really sympathise with the DWP situation.  I’ve had an assessment outside of the DWP process which gave me enhanced on both elements, was given 4 points for mobility and 8 for daily living, MR changed that to 4 and 6, meaning no daily living anymore.  Appeal this week was an interesting experience, I have 11 points for daily living, 10 for mobility and was advised to enter a change of circumstances to cover my current physical abilities.  My advisor said that this is standard, not many will go from having PIP taken away to double enhanced in one step and when a judge advises in a cryptic way to put int he change form, it’s just a matter of time before that becomes double enhanced, especially as I now have an advisor to ensure the form makes its case the right way from day 1.

Congrats on getting the car you (kind of) want in the end.  Unfortunately, dealing with the DWP seems to be an exercise in dogged determination.

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[MarkF]

I can really sympathise with the DWP situation.  I’ve had an assessment outside of the DWP process which gave me enhanced on both elements, was given 4 points for mobility and 8 for daily living, MR changed that to 4 and 6, meaning no daily living anymore.  Appeal this week was an interesting experience, I have 11 points for daily living, 10 for mobility and was advised to enter a change of circumstances to cover my current physical abilities.  My advisor said that this is standard, not many will go from having PIP taken away to double enhanced in one step and when a judge advises in a cryptic way to put int he change form, it’s just a matter of time before that becomes double enhanced, especially as I now have an advisor to ensure the form makes its case the right way from day 1.

Congrats on getting the car you (kind of) want in the end.  Unfortunately, dealing with the DWP seems to be an exercise in dogged determination.

[RXT]

Rbdo wrote:

Wow I’m sorry for your troubles. I empathise. We have had very similar experiences. I hope from here on it’s plain sailing and you enjoy your 300hp!

Thanks, I’m sure it will be a great car, I’ll just pretend it’s red with leather seats ?

[RXT]

gilders wrote:

The Peugeot 3008 GT 300 isn’t available on Motability. Unless I’m misunderstanding something??

kezo wrote:

gilders wrote:

The Peugeot 3008 GT 300 isn’t available on Motability. Unless I’m misunderstanding something??

Its not as far as I’m aware and can’t remember if it was on the scheme in Q1

Hi, seems you’re both right, looks like it was recently removed. I believe from this date:

wmcforum wrote:

Saturday 1st April – Vehicles on the Scheme – 677

Peugeot -15 (-4 petrol, -12 hybrid, -5 PHEV, diesel +6)

208 +1

2008 -3

3008 -6

308 -6 Removed from Scheme

308SW -6 Removed from Scheme

5008 +2 Rifter +1 408 +2

[RXT]

gilders wrote:

“as we need to pass affordability in December for our mortgage and banks won’t count the DLA as income anyway.” Don’t do what I did when applying for mortgage. I entered DLA as income and payments to Motability as outgoing. Understandably, they couldn’t use DLA as income BUT they refused to remove the Motability outgoing payments. As much as I explained that it was impossible to have an outgoing payment to Motability without being eligible for DLA (or PIP now) they wouldn’t remove it.

Thanks for the heads up! I didn’t think about this, I just assumed the DWP stopped the payments but it does make sense. Our child benefit was due to stop within about a year for our oldest daughter so the bank discounted the income, but still insisted on counting her as a dependent for expenditure even though that would stop when the CB stopped. Its the same if you let a property, the income doesn’t fully count for 2 years but the mortgage payments are an expense from day 1.

[RXT]

MFillingham wrote:

I can really sympathise with the DWP situation. I’ve had an assessment outside of the DWP process which gave me enhanced on both elements, was given 4 points for mobility and 8 for daily living, MR changed that to 4 and 6, meaning no daily living anymore. Appeal this week was an interesting experience, I have 11 points for daily living, 10 for mobility and was advised to enter a change of circumstances to cover my current physical abilities. My advisor said that this is standard, not many will go from having PIP taken away to double enhanced in one step and when a judge advises in a cryptic way to put int he change form, it’s just a matter of time before that becomes double enhanced, especially as I now have an advisor to ensure the form makes its case the right way from day 1. Congrats on getting the car you (kind of) want in the end. Unfortunately, dealing with the DWP seems to be an exercise in dogged determination.

Sorry to hear you’re struggling with the DWP. It can be a massive battle and if you haven’t got the time or lose the willpower to fight them, they win. The first tribunal we had I realised they don’t even send a representative. In fact if it wasn’t for the CAB writing our tribunal appeals and their legal team assessing the first tribunal response, we would definitely have lost. We did lose hope a number of times which is understandable over 2 years, but the CAB were brilliant. Fingers crossed for you ?

[kezo]

We looked at the Hybrid 4 300 last year and I liked it but, mrs kezo found some reason it wasn’t big enough in the rear, so we her decided against it. At the time it was something like £3400 for the top spec.

Anyway I hope you enjoy it and do give me a thought when your blasting up the road 🙂

[RXT]

kezo wrote:

We looked at the Hybrid 4 300 last year and I liked it but, mrs kezo found some reason it wasn’t big enough in the rear, so we her decided against it. At the time it was something like £3400 for the top spec. Anyway I hope you enjoy it and do give me a thought when your blasting up the road ?

? Fortunately Mrs RXT didn’t want anything to do with the selection process (although with great power comes great responsibility) and if the car is no good I’ll be on the receiving end of it ?.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>AP for the 300 was £6k, the black one already built had extras on top of that.</p>
What did you go for in the end?

[kezo]

RXT wrote:

Fortunately Mrs RXT didn’t want anything to do with the selection process (although with great power comes great responsibility) and if the car is no good I’ll be on the receiving end of it .

AP for the 300 was £6k, the black one already built had extras on top of that. What did you go for in the end?

We ordered the Tuscon at the latter end of 2021 as it best fitted our needs at the time and there wasn’t a massive choice back then. It’s got ample room in the back for mrs kezo and our disabled daughter, along with all the gadgets with it been the Ultimate trim. The issue I have now is its not auto and its giving my arthritic knee/foot alot of grief. Motability has excepted an early termination but finding something on the scheme that suits is another matter 🙂

[RXT]

kezo wrote:

RXT wrote:

Fortunately Mrs RXT didn’t want anything to do with the selection process (although with great power comes great responsibility) and if the car is no good I’ll be on the receiving end of it . AP for the 300 was £6k, the black one already built had extras on top of that. What did you go for in the end?

We ordered the Tuscon at the latter end of 2021 as it best fitted our needs at the time and there wasn’t a massive choice back then. It’s got ample room in the back for mrs kezo and our disabled daughter, along with all the gadgets with it been the Ultimate trim. The issue I have now is its not auto and its giving my arthritic knee/foot alot of grief. Motability has excepted an early termination but finding something on the scheme that suits is another matter ?

Ahh nice choice, that was on my shortlist but I never got to test drive one. They do look lovely.

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