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Thought it would be a good thread for EV owners and those getting one.
My 9 weeks of Kia EV6 AWD, 77 kwh useable battery size. Range is not bad, real world 281 miles on 100% from stated 318m. No heat pump fitted. Dealer charged it to 98% on delivery.
Feb £9.73 for 143.0kwh
March £8.52 for 113.6kwh
April £6.18 for 82.4kwh.
Charged overnight when battery goes between 20% to 45%. Local driving mostly, day trips out up to 170 miles on fast clear North Yorkshire country roads. 980 miles driven so far. Leave A/C off, use heated seats, drive in normal mode with Max regen – 3.5 to 4.2 mpw. Will start using the paddles to run in lower regen settings. Amazon Prime play list for music on iphone bluetooth car connection. Range will improve in warmer weather. Will make better use of this car and enjoy low cost driving.
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2024 - KIA EV6 GT Line AWD
2019 - 2024 BMW X1 2.0d X Drive Sport Auto
2017 -2019 Audi Q3 2.0d Quattro Sport Line Plus
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2021 model Kona 64kw. 100% in this weather 235 miles.
Turn auto climate on at 21 it drops to 203. I need it on all the time in this weather as it mists up quite easily.
I done a drive the other day 208 round trip with two adults and radio on. Outside temp was between 9-11 degrees the whole journey. Dry and not much wind. 2 miles stop start city driving around 5mph to 15mph. 100 miles motorway way at 65mph and 2 miles city driving around 15mph to 30mph.
Going down at 65mph used 101 miles of range that left 134 mile range and gave 3.9 mi/kw which would easily get me home but I wanted to drive back at 78mph.
Stopped at 50kw charger, charging speed first 10min was 42kw and added 23 miles. Done another ten minutes and it added 20 miles, total added for 20 mins was 43 miles. By this stage it was starting to slow down as I was approaching 76%
Exact same drive home at 78mph with auto climate at 21 similar conditions. Started the return journey with 177 mile range and got home with 34 miles left and used 2.9mi/KW.
Drive back used used an extra 42 miles range at higher speed.
Journey down took an extra 30 minutes.
As the temperature improves I’m getting better numbers but I’m still figuring out regen settings.
I’m currently getting between 3.5 and 4.2 m/kWh, I was getting between 2.2 and 3.4 in February.
I’ve found, so far, that max regen is great around town but I need to drop it to 3 for country roads and 1 for dual carriageway & motorway driving. I had a clear run Monday and in 8 miles on country roads driving ‘aggressively’ I was still getting 3.6 m/kWh?
So, total range seems to be around 245- 320 and it’s not summer yet. ?
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Enyaq 85x (AWD Twin Motors) covered 1250 miles in the last 3 months.
Quoted range of 327 at 100% charge, real world Jan to March 220
April warming up a bit so now 260 but actual is around 220-240 depending on journeys, have seen over 8.8/kWh but in reality averaging 3 to 3.2
I knew going in the Winter range would be about 240/250 but the twin motors reduce that. I’m hoping in 3 years time my next BEV will have more like 300+ in the Winter so I’ll need to charge less often. The KerboCharge does exactly what it says it does but bending down and carrying an 8m cable about (Ohme E-Pod doesn’t lock it in place) in cold/icy/snowy,raining weather is both painful and unpleasant so I’m picking my nights to charge carefully!.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
This thread is very interesting, but for it to make any real sense it would help if everyone could do as @Phaedra has done and state real world range versus quoted range e.g. “Quoted range of 327 at 100% charge, real world Jan to March 220”. Miles per kWh means absolutely nothing to me ?
This thread is very interesting, but for it to make any real sense it would help if everyone could do as @Phaedra has done and state real world range versus quoted range e.g. “Quoted range of 327 at 100% charge, real world Jan to March 220”. Miles per kWh means absolutely nothing to me ?
Miles per kWh is pretty much miles per gallon for the EV world. It measures efficiency, a much more realistic test of what it costs to drive the car, rather than which manufacturer can squeeze more battery capacity in/under their cars. I always work out what I’m actually getting per charge by multiplying the miles/kWh by the charge quantity rather than what the Guess-O-Meter reads. My last charge was 70.8 kWh and I was averaging 3.4 m/kWh before that recharge. That means from 90% down to nearly empty I did 240.72 miles in a mixture of short trips around town and a few longer ones either on country roads or dual carriageways.
This measure quite realistically with a 100% use at 263 miles range. As things warm up, I’d expect nearer 300-320 miles which means 4.1m/kWh and a 90% range of 290 miles.
WLTP quoted ranges are usually nonsense. However, Hyundai have a history of getting rather close, if not better than the quoted range. The original 64kWh Kona was quoted at 320 miles in summer, I was following a thread on an EV chat group where people were getting between 300 and 340 in August and one even managed 380 miles, probably by driving extremely carefully and using every trick in the book to extend range. The range for the RWD Namsan Edition Ioniq 5 is 296 miles, as you can see I’m not far from that and the temperature is barely in the teens. At 20-25C I’d would expect well over 300 miles if I ran the car from max to nearly dead. Oh, and I tend to drive comfortably, so air con on in the winter, heated seats (x3) and steering wheel on for most of the time as well. In the summer, I’m expecting heated seats to become cooled seats and air con on freeze as none of us like being too hot, we’d rather contend with being cold and having to warm up a bit. I also pre condition every morning I have to take the Mrs to work, so 3 mornings a week it’s air con on and the car going nowhere AND not plugged in. That’s no good for range.
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Miles per kWh = chinese, but Miles per Gallon super simple?
Multiply Miles per kWh with the battery size, you get the real world range.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Miles per kWh is important but with battery size, real world figures are extremely important including driving style.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Mate, have you ever test driven an AWD i5? I am torn between that in Ultimate Tech trim or just saving £1300 and going for the RWD Ultimate Tech. Another question is does the Namsan come with a pano roof or is that not a thing in the UK market? Thanks in advance.
Yes there’s a pano roof on the Namsan Edition. I have driven an AWD I5 but most of what I’ve heard has been along the kind of the little bit if extra grip isn’t worth the reductions in the Frunk/Froot and efficiency.
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Re Driving style, personally drive just the same as in my previous BMW X1 X Drive. As quickly as road condition and speed limits allow. Found the adjustments needed was to take account of the instant power response and be much lighter on the throttle! Battery efficiency is even better when added the regen figures to it. Have been getting around 4.4kwh showing in the cars software EV screen. My EV6 appears to have greater returns than the Ioniq 5 for some reason. Not come near to its road holding limits as yet.
2024 - KIA EV6 GT Line AWD
2019 - 2024 BMW X1 2.0d X Drive Sport Auto
2017 -2019 Audi Q3 2.0d Quattro Sport Line Plus
2005 - 2017 Honda CRV Exec 2.0dEnyaq 85x
5500 miles done since beginning of January.
In the cold 240-250 miles at 100%
Now warmer 290 ish miles
Mines on a 100% charge tonight, it reckons 265 miles.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
Whilst I am very happy with the running costs of my PHEV, I’m getting about 35 miles of EV driving per day for about 70 pence at 4.1m/kwh , the downside is that it has to be plugged in EVERY night, where as if I’d have gotten a FULL EV, it would have only been needed to be plugged in once a week to do my mileage.
It’s my wifes car so I am able to do this but others might need to take this into consideration as I wish I had gone full EV.
I get about 230ish from my kona, lot of motorway and A road driving though. No heat pump or suchlike, but the range is starting to creep up with the warmer weather and if I am just pootling about locally, could add another 40 miles on that. Also, I don’t drive particularly conservatively
?We are in the 3.7 to 4.2 range now.
Or put another way, our 58kWh battery might do between 214 to 243 miles without a heat pump. Wish I could last that long!!
Skoda Enyaq Race Blue
Megane e tech. 60kw battery with heat pump.
Quoted range= 280
Winter range= 180
Actually get in winter= 160
This is for mixed driving but mainly stop start 30-40mph zones plus the odd stretch at 50-70mph…
BYD Atto 3 with alleged 260 miles and not getting anywhere near that. I charged the car to full drove Glasgow to Edinburgh and back again not even 100 miles and it needed charge again by the time I got back.
I have since cancelled the car and went back to an ICE ( Seat Ateca ). The alleged benefits of owning an EV are all stats and figures while in the real world until the range gets into the realms of say real world 500 mile+ then I won’t be thinking about an EV again.
our Ioniq 38kwh shows 195miles this morning and temps here still 10c. The last 6000miles average is 4.9. In the warmer weather range was 200-220miles with a mixed bag of driving. Will be gutted when it goes next month, but it is being replaced by a Nansam
our Ioniq 38kwh shows 195miles this morning and temps here still 10c. The last 6000miles average is 4.9. In the warmer weather range was 200-220miles with a mixed bag of driving. Will be gutted when it goes next month, but it is being replaced by a Nansam
4.9?? that is some going. I pick mine up tomorrow (long range RWD Premium)
Do you use manual paddles for regen?
Our Kona EV with 63Kw battery has, since July 2021, done almost 20,000 miles.
On average we have got 4.97 miles from each Kwh of energy. My wife has taken it as her ‘mission’ to keep that high. The range displayed by the car seems pretty accurate but our range on a full battery has varied from 280 to 352 miles.
We don’t have a home ev chargepoint and so use a mixture of the 3 pin to ev cable and public chargepoints. May not get a Kona on the change in July but will get an EV.
our Ioniq 38kwh shows 195miles this morning and temps here still 10c. The last 6000miles average is 4.9. In the warmer weather range was 200-220miles with a mixed bag of driving. Will be gutted when it goes next month, but it is being replaced by a Nansam
4.9?? that is some going. I pick mine up tomorrow (long range RWD Premium) Do you use manual paddles for regen?
It’s the original Ioniq, not the i5. Yes regen on full and I hardly ever use the foot brake.
’21 Kia Soul EV 64Kw, Heatpump. Mostly motorway/quiet dual carriageway & A roads, very little town driving. Never had any issues on long runs inc. 600 mile days.
Quoted WLTP range 280, Winter averages 205, Summer 250ish. Car says average of 3.2 miles per kw, not driving gently. Always have heat/aircon on.
Will order an Ioniq 5 Ultimate AWD with Tech pack this week, looking forward to 20 min charging and the extra space. I should get a bit more range too, but not worried about that.
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