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Didnt watch the vid.
These YouTubers are NOT interested in giving you correct information, they only want like, Subs, and comments.
Indeed most content is click bait, nonsense and inaccurate.
This guy probably creates content for US anti-EV viewers, and not interested in the truth.
The problems with US Tesla chargers are the very low Temps they have right now. All heavy load cables are oil cooled, and with low Temps the oil is too thick to circulate correctly.
The chargers shut down to protect the unit from damage.
Actually, he doesnt provide anti ev content, he is fair minded and if you watch the video, he says this us NOT for anti ev peopke to use as ammunition.
He shows even when totally frozen, you can get charge into tge car.
There are negatives as well as positives to owning an EV yet some people refuse to acknowledge this and will go to any lengths to give the impression its all rainbows and unicorns owning an EV.
People need to educate themselves on all aspects of these types of vehicle and then make their own informed decision on whether one is suitable for their particular circumstances or not.
People bang on about how annoying they find the anti-EV brigade but for those of us prepared to do our research the pro-EV people can be just as bad as neither side is giving an accurate representation of what it means to own and run an EV
Actually, he doesnt provide anti ev content, he is fair minded and if you watch the video, he says this us NOT for anti ev peopke to use as ammunition. He shows even when totally frozen, you can get charge into tge car.
I found that channel a while ago,when I was looking at the ID.4, and watched a fair few videos to try and get a handle on the channel.
While they all own EVs by the looks of things, they do see more balanced than most when relaying pros & cons of vehicles.
I’ve had 15cm of snow, -9 temps, pretty much the worst type of winter weather here, my problems, well, the big one was our driveway, its a steep slope, getting out was a big issue on std tyres, so could not go back down it, the issue? well, in an ICE, no issue, park nearby and walk home. In the EV? despite charging to 100% I needed a charge 2 days later and could not plug in at home.
Car itself was a nightmare on the roads during peak snow on Tuesday, wife was stuck at her work and so I had to get there, worst handling in the snow ever, which is primarily the tyres again, not just because of summer tyres, but also worn, 35,000 miles old and really need changing (Kwik Fit said no back in late November). Managed uphill by turning off traction control. The 30 mile journey took 2.5 hours, but at least we all got home.
I’ve just got back from a public Chargeplace Scotland charger, charged no problem, bit slower due to cold, the 50kw unit was delivering 40kw. Cost for 10-45% (102 miles) was £12 (council charger, 41p per kw).
Only saw one other EV whilst driving about over the last 4 days, an MG4 yesterday. Really noticed the total absence of Teslas on the A90 over the past 4 days.
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All rear wheel drive cars suffer in snow regardless of their powertrain.
Yes, summer tyres are also poor in snow and all season tyres are a better bet.
Even in a 4wd you should turn traction control in snow, its whole job is to stop spinning wheels, which you do need to have.
Thinner profile tyres are better in snow as they dig down, tge reason tge old Defender was better in snow than the current low profile stablemates.
Finally, even 4wd have issues trying to stop.
If this weather was a normal winter situation, do what Scandinavian countries do, studded tyres or snow chains
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With the HV battery at 0c the car could only manage 4.5kwh from our 7.5 KwH home charger.
Just before this the battery heater had kicked in as the battery was at -1c and was pulling 1.5Kwh. the battery heater only starts once the car is in a drive mode. It took about 8 minutes for the battery to go from -1c to 0c.
When at a DC charger with a cold battery eg 0c the battery will heat up untill it reaches 25c. As it heats up the charge rate goes up as well.
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Latest Delivery Date From Dealer, April 2023I’ve just got back from a public Chargeplace Scotland charger, charged no problem, bit slower due to cold, the 50kw unit was delivering 40kw. Cost for 10-45% (102 miles) was £12 (council charger, 41p per kw). Only saw one other EV whilst driving about over the last 4 days, an MG4 yesterday. Really noticed the total absence of Teslas on the A90 over the past 4 days.
Thanks Abercol for your honesty! I have been toying with idea of getting a EV6/Ioniq but, something tells me not to and its based around charging. Regardless of youtube video’s coldgate exists, even plugging your car at a 150kW it would have equally struggled to charger higher then 40kW. I rely on frequent 200 mile journeys in all weather, the lack of chargers enroute along with the fact I can’t guarantee I’ll get to one with x charge to enable battery preheat plays on my mind, especially if the journey is a emergency.
Its doesn’t get as cold here but, its still -6 when I got in not long ago. A friend curses their EV when charging speeds don’t ramp up as specified by the manufacturer. Although I don’t have a steep drive, I live up a blood steep mountain, which can be fum when the weather turns.
I think I’m gonna stick to hybrid this time round 🙂
All rear wheel drive cars suffer in snow regardless of their powertrain.
An EV with 50:50 weight distribution, extra weight, and how they apply power to the wheels, will cope far better in snow than even FWD ICE cars!
An EV with 50:50 weight distribution, extra weight, and how they apply power to the wheels, will cope far better in snow than even FWD ICE cars!
I don’t think so, the FWD ICE has over 70% of its weight over the drive wheels… otherwise all those years of digging my old BMW out of the snow must have been a figment of my imagination
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From driving in Norway it’s all down to the tyres on the car. Each car has 2 complete sets of tyres, summer set and a winter set.
Winter tires are mandatory between 15th November and 15th March. If such tires are mounted, they must be installed on all four wheels. A minimum tread depth of 3 mm is recommended.
On order ID.3 Max Pro Performance September 2021
Glacier White Metallic Flat black
Latest Delivery Date From Dealer, April 2023An EV with 50:50 weight distribution, extra weight, and how they apply power to the wheels, will cope far better in snow than even FWD ICE cars!
I don’t think so, the FWD ICE has over 70% of its weight over the drive wheels… otherwise all those years of digging my old BMW out of the snow must have been a figment of my imagination
Take it all in combination 50:50 weight distribution, along with the extra weight of EV and how EV applies power such as using “slip start”, rather than comparing a fwd vs rwd ICE?
Think it’s a bit rich to say didn’t watch the vid then criticise the guy. I watched most of it and it was all factual reporting no bias at all. If that’d been a piece for the news I wouldn’t have been surprised.
Things is EVs haven’t been around long it’s not a static technology unlike ICE vehicles. We didn’t get to where we are with fuel overnight it’s the result of nigh on 100 years of progress. It’s early days for electric in comparison there are going to be headaches, missteps and issues. Part of getting a subsidy is because it’s not a mature market.
Like all new stuff there will be pro and cons sometimes cons will be more than the pros. Battery chemistry is changing, cold weather performance is improving the new sodium ion batteries allegedly do not suffer from cold weather problems so we shall see but it’s like everything know what you’re buying
Did a charge today @Kezo. 50kW Chargeplace Scotland in 5 degrees outside temp and my Ioniq 6 was pulling 49kW from 30% -80% in less than an hour. Not complaining especially as it’s still free charging!
Did a charge today @Kezo. 50kW Chargeplace Scotland in 5 degrees outside temp and my Ioniq 6 was pulling 49kW from 30% -80% in less than an hour. Not complaining especially as it’s still free charging!
Great! Even better it was free, at least for now anyway 🙂
I did a cold (Zero C) public charge last Monday in Glasgow. Don’t know the charging speed as I was in the pub (Steam Wheeler) having a meal!
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Think it’s a bit rich to say didn’t watch the vid then criticise the guy. I watched most of it and it was all factual reporting no bias at all. If that’d been a piece for the news I wouldn’t have been surprised. Things is EVs haven’t been around long it’s not a static technology unlike ICE vehicles. We didn’t get to where we are with fuel overnight it’s the result of nigh on 100 years of progress. It’s early days for electric in comparison there are going to be headaches, missteps and issues. Part of getting a subsidy is because it’s not a mature market. Like all new stuff there will be pro and cons sometimes cons will be more than the pros. Battery chemistry is changing, cold weather performance is improving the new sodium ion batteries allegedly do not suffer from cold weather problems so we shall see but it’s like everything know what you’re buying
Thats a bit rich…Rich
I gave my reason for NOT watching the vid…and you sau..”its a bit rich”?
Nothing in the vid is pertinent to me..at all. I dont live in Chicago, I dont and never will, own a Tesla, and I wont use a Tesla Supercharger.
If I lived in the US, own a Tesla then it may be pertinent, but that still does not mean I have to watch it.
Its a bit rich, Rich trying to have a GO at someone because, with reasons, they chose NOT to do so!
Some people jeez.
@ionic
Wow! So, you don’t think that car manufacturers test cold weather and hir weather testing on their vehicles?
Do you think they only test at UK moderate climate conditions?
So what uf the test was done in Chicagom tge temperatures that it was tested in is normal, even for Hyundai.
So you won’t ever gaveca Tesla, that’s fine, I wouldn’t have one either, but cold weather testing is the same forcall manufacturers, tge actual car us irrelevant, it’s the testing that matters.
Tesla doesn’t have some secret way of warming the battery, its normal process.
You won’t use a Tesla charger? You do realise they are making them available to all cars, and will benefit Kia and Hyubdai with their 800v architecture
Never go to Chicage? You don’t know what you are missing.
“Some people sheesh” yes I agree
Hi , just thought I would enlighten you of my own personal experience of owning , tesla modle p100d and modle 3 performance, and charging using, non tesla super chargers was never a problem , yes you don’t always get the kw what the chargers advertise but that happens in summer.
They work and charge fine in the uk summer and winter , just the range drops.
The same ways my ice x3 uses more diesel in winter.
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