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We’ve just had a break in Cornwall, we drove down on Good Friday, being a bank holiday I was dreading it, especially after hearing the RAC warning of armaggedon on the roads. I was a bit anxious about charging on such a busy day.
How wrong I was, I subscribed to Tesla for £8.99 and planned to use Gloucester services, Lifton and Camborne. I had a back up plan for each of them. To cut a long story short, it was an absolute breeze! First stop Gloucester South 8 bays 5 free, next stop Lifton, 16 bays 5 free. We charged twice at Camborne whilst in Cornwall both times only 3 bays of 8 being used. Coming home charged at Lifton 3 of 16 being used and finally Gloucester North 6 of 8 being used.We started way 100% battery from home traveled around 900 miles and spent £88.21 charging and had 30% battery when we got back.
EV haters are not going to like this, but not only was it a hassle free breeze during Easter week, but we had so much charging choice, we managed to chose the cheaper Tesla option, it actually worked out far cheaper than filling an ICE car.
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I live in Camborne and I’ve not seen those Tesla chargers more than half occupied yet and they’ve been there for a few years now. I wasn’t aware they’d been opened up to non Teslas.
It’s getting ever easier and cheaper to get around the country now, especially with the Tesla chargers opened up.
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Pleased it went well for you but please don’t fall into the lazy trap of labelling people EV haters. The cost is one thing (glad it worked out in this case) but it’s the planning (as you did) and the necessity to make stops that I wouldn’t other wise make (and the time involved with them) that puts me off.
Travelling the country is easy now. I’m doing Glasgow to Cornwall (St Austell) next month then back via Swansea & Llandudno, probably end up doing over 1,500 miles so I’ll be well over my 20k allowance for the year 😱😂 We do avoid bank and school holidays if possible just because it’s always busier but glad to hear you didn’t have to queue and wait 😤
I tend to use Ionity for the higher charging speeds (Hyundai 800v architecture) but will use Tesla if they are the nearest.
We will still stop at roughly the same spots and for the same length of time as we did last year in the diesel cause us & the dog need a toilet break and a rest 😴 so the trip doesn’t take any longer in an EV but is much more relaxing than an ICE
I’m trying to work this out for my own needs based on 285 miles per full charge (77kWh).
77kW from charging at home @ £? kW (estimate 10p kWh = £7.70)
170 kW Tesla Charging £88.21 + £8.99 = £97.20
247kW in total / 77kW (car capcity) = 3.2 charges for journey
3.2 x 285 miles per charge = 912 miles total
£104.90 total cost for journey of 912 miles = 11.5 pence per mile
I’m trying to work this out for my own needs based on 285 miles per full charge (77kWh). 77kW from charging at home @ £? kW (estimate 10p kWh = £7.70) 170 kW Tesla Charging £88.21 + £8.99 = £97.20 247kW in total / 77kW (car capcity) = 3.2 charges for journey 3.2 x 285 miles per charge = 912 miles total £104.90 total cost for journey of 912 miles = 11.5 pence per mile
That’s quite accurate, home charging was 11.5p for about 70% as I charged on BG Peak Save Sunday but had to pay full price 23p for the last 30%.
I’m trying to work this out for my own needs based on 285 miles per full charge (77kWh). 77kW from charging at home @ £? kW (estimate 10p kWh = £7.70) 170 kW Tesla Charging £88.21 + £8.99 = £97.20 247kW in total / 77kW (car capcity) = 3.2 charges for journey 3.2 x 285 miles per charge = 912 miles total £104.90 total cost for journey of 912 miles = 11.5 pence per mile
My figures approximately the same.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
My figures approximately the same.
I’m getting practice in for when the time comes 😂
You automatically assume charging a EV using public fast charger over 900 miles would be more expensive than a hybrid/PHEV £88 compared to £105, £27 saving until they start charging per mile.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
Pleased it went well for you but please don’t fall into the lazy trap of labelling people EV haters. The cost is one thing (glad it worked out in this case) but it’s the planning (as you did) and the necessity to make stops that I wouldn’t other wise make (and the time involved with them) that puts me off.
That’s the thing, as the network continues to expand, the need for planning reduces.
I often hear that people don’t want to stop for 45 minutes but stop when their (or the kids) bladders dictate. Thus, if you plug in every time you stop, even if you don’t really need it, then you don’t find yourself planning or running out.
My figures approximately the same.
I’m getting practice in for when the time comes 😂
Is that a recognition that the time will come?
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I live in Camborne and I’ve not seen those Tesla chargers more than half occupied yet and they’ve been there for a few years now. I wasn’t aware they’d been opened up to non Teslas. It’s getting ever easier and cheaper to get around the country now, especially with the Tesla chargers opened up.
It’s a perfect location just off the A30 I’ve used it 4 times now. Only downside is they are older V2 or 3 chargers with short cables, this meant I block a bay when charging. It would be good if they upgraded them to the V4 like at Lifton and Gloucester as they have very long cables that can reach either side of the car.
@MFillingham My stops on a long journey are 5 minutes only for a pee! Our kids are now adults and we never stop for food or drink at service stations so, as I say, charging stops would be an inconvenience for us. I’m happy to pay the higher running costs of an ICE car in return for hassle free motoring, but I fully appreciate that for others it’s all about cheap running costs and the charging is a means to an end. We are all different and there’s no right and wrong. Thankfully we live in a country where freedom of choice is allowed – well, for now anyway 😂
Is that a recognition that the time will come?
Few more ICE to go yet 🤣
The subscription does not open up Tesla only sites to other EV’s & it has a minimum 1 month contract length. If you buy an annual subscription you pay less, £90, rather than the standard £8.99 a month, saving 16%.
Reports vary, but around 50 sites are open to all EV’s in the UK.
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Not wanting to burst any bubbles but I recon I could do 900 miles for around £90 in the wife’s Skoda Karoq Diesel.
No bubbles burst…I’ve covered 2500 miles in my EV since December, my total fuel bill so far is £77, that includes a 560 mile road trip which used Tesla superchargers without the discounted rate we are discussing.
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Not wanting to burst any bubbles but I recon I could do 900 miles for around £90 in the wife’s Skoda Karoq Diesel.
Why?
What has this to do with this thread? Most folk who drive EV’s will have driven petrol and/or diesel cars and know all too well about their economy. It’s not a competition.
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@joejoe does the 8.99 subscription to Tesla open up ALL their chargers rather the few they’ve opened up to non-tesla cars? And is there a minimum period or can you cancel at anytime?
As Abercol says it’s a limited number, though I think it’s over 70. If you download the Tesla app you can see a map of just the chargers open to all. You can subscribe for a month and then cancel.
On a side note, on 3 occasions now there have been non Tesla owners charging at other full price chargers adjacent to the Tesla chargers, grinning and laughing when they saw us reverse into a Tesla space, who had the last laugh. 😂
Not wanting to burst any bubbles but I recon I could do 900 miles for around £90 in the wife’s Skoda Karoq Diesel.
Why? What has this to do with this thread? Most folk who drive EV’s will have driven petrol and/or diesel cars and know all too well about their economy. It’s not a competition.
Not intending to start any competitions. Simply making the point that 900 miles in a diesel, for around £90, without having to stop is not unheard off. Now if you said we done 900 miles and it cost about £30 in electric, you would have converted me instantly.
Not intending to start any competitions. Simply making the point that 900 miles in a diesel, for around £90, without having to stop is not unheard off. Now if you said we done 900 miles and it cost about £30 in electric, you would have converted me instantly.Doing 900 miles without having a stop is quite a feat… 😱 😂😂However I could 900 miles at 4miles/kWh (or better!) and charge at home for 7p so that would cost me £15.75 😁 probably less if I used solar but all that is as irrelevant to the OP as your post was 🤫Not intending to start any competitions. Simply making the point that 900 miles in a diesel, for around £90, without having to stop is not unheard off. Now if you said we done 900 miles and it cost about £30 in electric, you would have converted me instantly.
Why post this? Firstly 900 miles is nearly 13 hours at the national speed limit, longer on A roads. Driving continuously for that long may not be unheard of but is definitely unwise and probably dangerous. If you’re just eating and drinking on the go there’s still questions to be answered.
Then there’s the whole price thing. I drive around town, for short trips all year around for less than 3p per mile. When I go away I have to pay more but, frankly, couldn’t care less. I’ve saved enough over petrol or diesel that I’ll need to drive a stupid distance to risk losing all that saving.
Even after all that, this thread is about the ease of finding chargers and charging. About having a break away from home and not having a massive headache finding chargers. None of that deserves a I can drive miles for pennies in my ICE type comment. I’m pleased for you, great, just why do you feel the need? Are EVs that abhorrent to you that you need to post a counter comment?
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I believe Batfastard was merely pointing out, he could do 900 miles in their diesel for £90. Stopping or doing the journey straight was never mentioned.
However, on a long jouney ICE especially diesel will ultimately be cheaper on costs. The difference with EV’s and to a similar extent PHEV’s, the extra costs are easily offset with local journeys.
Not wanting to burst any bubbles but I recon I could do 900 miles for around £90 in the wife’s Skoda Karoq Diesel.
Are you stating your wife’s Skoda car ache over 60mpg on the UK motorways, at 60mpg = £95.25, at 50mpg = £ 114.30
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
I believe Batfastard was merely pointing out, he could do 900 miles in their diesel for £90. Stopping or doing the journey straight was never mentioned. However, on a long jouney ICE especially diesel will ultimately be cheaper on costs. The difference with EV’s and to a similar extent PHEV’s, the extra costs are easily offset with local journeys.
Thank you Kezo. Someone who understands what I was simply saying. However, as I seemed to have stirred up a few emotions with some people in this thread, I will leave quietly…
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