EV Demand Slump (Private Buyers)

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    Glos Guy
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      The number of households buying electric vehicles fell sharply last month, new figures show, as industry figures warned of the impact a lack of tax breaks is having on motorists.

      The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) revealed private sales of battery-powered vehicles fell by more than 14pc in September, which the trade body said shows the need for greater support for would-be buyers to boost demand.

      Mike Hawes, chief executive of the SMMT, said: “With tougher electric vehicle (EV) targets for manufacturers coming into force next year, we need to accelerate the transition, encouraging all motorists to make the switch.

      This means adding carrots to the stick – creating private purchase incentives aligned with business benefits, equalising on-street charging VAT with off-street domestic rates and mandating charge point rollout in line with how electric vehicle sales are now to be dictated.”

      His demands follow Rishi Sunak’s recent decision to push back the ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars to 2035.

       

      I think this further supports the assertion that car manufacturers are going to have to rely on lease operators, such as Motability, to hit their EV targets. Personally, I am strongly opposed to subsidies. I’m a great believer in supply and demand, and if the demand isn’t there prices need to fall to address it. Subsidies almost always result in one thing – profiteering for the industry. It happened with ‘Help to Buy’ in the house building industry (where it is known as ‘Help to Buy Housebuilders Yachts’) and also in the car industry. As we know, when the last lot of EV subsidies were cut, manufacturers simply reduced their selling prices to offset it, meaning that the beneficiaries of the subsidies had been the manufacturers!

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      kezo
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        Is there any added fire risk with them? When I was watching the news yesterday they showed that dreadful crash in Venice where a number of people were killed when a bus went off an elevated section of road and the chief fire officer said “because it was an electrically powered bus it burst into flames immediately”. Tragic.

        Thermal runaway, impact and faulty or non existance battery preconditioning management – the newly announced Enyak is getting this and the ioniq/EV6 already have.

        Diesel runaway

        VS

        Thermal runaway

        #236801
        joss
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          @joss ⬆⬆ please ?

          Done @Kezo

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          #236814
          Glos Guy
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            Is there any added fire risk with them? When I was watching the news yesterday they showed that dreadful crash in Venice where a number of people were killed when a bus went off an elevated section of road and the chief fire officer said “because it was an electrically powered bus it burst into flames immediately”. Tragic.

            Thermal runaway, impact and faulty or non existance battery preconditioning management – the newly announced Enyak is getting this and the ioniq/EV6 already have.

            I’m afraid that means absolutely nothing to me! I’ve watched your videos though ?. I presume that must be exceptionally rare? I presume that EVs aren’t more likely to burst into flames in a crash?

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            kezo
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              I’m afraid that means absolutely nothing to me! I’ve watched your videos though . I presume that must be exceptionally rare? I presume that EVs aren’t more likely to burst into flames in a crash?

              Yes mate especially as battery technology moves forward and improving. The BYD Blade battery uses lithium ion phosphate (LFP) or LiFePO4 thats more known. The downside is the battery packs have a lower density than other chemistry’s but, known to be safer however, to mitigate lower density it is possible to add more cell packs to the Blade battery, which mitigates the otherwise loss.

              One of the reasons I believe EV insurance is through the roof ( @joss post) is the potential risks of extinguished battery fires or damage caused from an accident is  the possibility they can reignite time after time and require larger storage area’s after an accident/fire. Industry & emergency chiefs are learning and coming up with ways to mitigate these risks.

              Interesting video that highlights some of the risks from a US fire department.

              Thanks @joss 🙂

               

              #236833
              Southamman
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                @Kezo, we had to put in a special climate controlled unit separate from the rest of the manufacturing process and to store the batteries from Rimac, plus the whole area you had to have special training and passes to be in that area.

                A little out, but better to be safe than sorry

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