Does fidelity matter anymore?

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  • #156249
    brydo

      Does it matter if your faithful?

      Matt Hancock has been captured kissing and fondling a work college, both are married, should he resign, be sacked or doesn’t it matter anymore.

      He, more importantly say the media, broke the covid rules he imposed on the general public.

      Boris doesn’t has a leg to stand on as he has no morals but what do you need to do to get sacked from this government?

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    • #156251
      wmcforum
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        I’m just curious as to why the video was leaked and why now. Perhaps it was actually to enhance his position. We will never know but I suspect there is more to it than meets the eye.

        #156262
        mitch
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          i am not defending him in any way but its a bit suss to me how is there a cctv camera in a ministers office. ive worked in govt departments mainly mod but there is no way a cctv camera would be installed in a ministers office or high grade civil servants etc due to the sensitivity of documents and meetings etc.

          so how were the pictures obtained ? definateley a security breach i think regardless of what he was up to.

           

          #156266
          gothitjulie
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            Conservative party members don’t select candidates for election on the basis of fidelity.

            How CCTV footage can be released into the public domain is of much greater importance, I suspect Gove!

             

            #156268
            brydo

              For “fidelity” see “trust”, cheating on your partner must say something about how trustworthy you are and how likely you are to keep any vows you make like the ” Oath of Allegiance” for example.

              Or do we just accept everything and anything MP’s do or say?

              #156294
              joss
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                I am no fan of Matt Hancock. I do however, really feel for his Family. Silly man. Off with his head.

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                #156295
                NewYork1
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                  Another case of do as I say and I’ll do whatever I want because I’m in government.

                  Feel sorry for everyone who has had to miss out on important family issues like grieving for a loved one, simply because we chose to follow the rules imposed upon us.

                  If he had any ounce of decency he would resign.

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                  #156305
                  Brydo

                    And he is gone, better late than never.

                    #156336
                    gothitjulie
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                      For “fidelity” see “trust”, cheating on your partner must say something about how trustworthy you are and how likely you are to keep any vows you make like the ” Oath of Allegiance” for example. Or do we just accept everything and anything MP’s do or say?

                      You “trust” an MP?

                      No no no, just try to put them where they will do the least damage until they become a liability, then get a new one in & repeat.

                      #156338
                      gothitjulie
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                        And he is gone, better late than never.

                        Yes, the wheels turned, local MPs consulted the members, local MPs got the cold shoulder meaning they either got rid of Hancock or they’d go too, the local MPs put pressure on central office, central office gave Hancock two choices… resign or get kicked out.

                        His crimes were many, but the one that got him removed was that of getting caught. By resigning it means that one day he could hold another cabinet post but that’s off in the future, if ever.

                         

                         

                        #156504
                        Georgie

                          When this sort of stuff is ‘leaked’ it usually means the Government is keen to draw Media attention away from some other nasty piece of work they wish to pass unnoticed.  What bit of unpleasant/unpopular legislation are they trying to sneak through this week, I wonder . . .

                          #156510
                          wmcforum
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                            Perhaps it’s the fact that we are pushing ahead with fully opening the country when Covid cases are skyrocketing, hospitals filling up and deaths doubling every few days, the school population are caught in the perpetual cycle of isolation. My daughter is into her sixth period of isolation, it’s maddening.

                            #156533
                            Wigwam
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                              Perhaps things are not quite as you see them wmc.

                              What’s maddening is that schools send perfectly healthy children home because the might have been in contact with someone who might have contracted Covid which is unlikely to harm them.

                              Cases are not people who are ill and receiving treatment, they are people who have had a positive reaction to a test.  With Covid within the population the more you test the more you find.

                              Hospitals are not filling up. In many of them they are no longer maintaining Covid wards.

                              Deaths are not doubling every few days.

                              The government have done a great job scaremongering.

                               

                              #156535
                              wmcforum
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                                We will see.  We all want this behind us but our local Covid ward is back open and full of young people, on Friday a 39 year old man with no underlying heath condition was carried out in a bag. The Government are not scaremongering, quite the reverse, they are pretending this is not happening and the exhausted public are happy to go along with it.

                                #156537
                                Wigwam
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                                  The reality is that Covid will always be with us. There’s no use pretending that it can be eradicated. You are right the public are exhausted. We are now seeing the effect of the neglect of other health conditions over the last 16 months and the economic consequences of shutting the country down but continuing to pay people will be with us for decades.  It’s time we got on with our lives, wmc, and stopped doom-mongering.

                                  #156540
                                  wmcforum
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                                    It’s a shame you concluded with the doom-mongering comment. Hey ho.

                                    #156541
                                    Wigwam
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                                      In my book saying:

                                      “Covid cases are skyrocketing, hospitals filling up and deaths doubling every few days,”

                                      is doom-mongering given that is not based on fact.

                                      #156544
                                      wmcforum
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                                        I am worried that is all, I look at graphs and see trend lines. You should look at the data, through my eyes it’s cause for concern. Boom boom Boris can’t delay fully opening, his ego won’t allow it. I just hope my worry is unfounded. Perhaps if there was a little more trust in the health secretary, past and present, I would not be so worried. Covid is still taking a great toll on my family.

                                        #156548
                                        mitch
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                                          really wigwam, a record 3000+ cases in one day in scotland. so cases arent increasing???

                                          loads of scottish fans attending football matches and decending on london etc etc.

                                          cause and effect???

                                          the only good thing is there arent as many hospitalisations as the vacceine reduces the effect.

                                          exactly as the medics say.

                                          personnally i would rather put up with a little inconveniance a little longer to get more vaccinated.

                                          #156549
                                          mitch
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                                            i would delay because you know exactly what will happen when they allow people out, they will go mad. even now weve had huge student parties as its end of year in nottingham. how many of them are going to transmit it home to parents or god forbid grandparents etc etc.

                                            the same will happen all over the country when they are allowed into pubs with no restrictions. i do worry that as soon as they lift the restrictions there will be a huge new wave. what do we say then to the relatives of those who die? whoops we got it wrong awfully sorry but we wanted a night in the pub.

                                            #156560
                                            Wigwam
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                                              I’m not trying to be insensitive here. Yes, people are still catching this virus and it makes some people ill enough to need hospital, but it’s not killing like it did. Vaccination, better understanding and treatment is working.  People are mixing in outdoor events all over the country and there’s no evidence infection rates ate affected. People have to get their lives back. How long would you wait, with the consequences for other health conditions, kids education, the loss to the economy, etc?. We are printing billions of pounds of money every week with no way of covering the debt. There has to be an end to all this and an acceptance that Covid is part of our lives.

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