AP hypothetical question!

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  • #105244
    Noel
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      ok bare with me here…

      To all the people who where lucky enough to get massive reductions in the AP of their cars,

      If these cars where to be returned the pro-rata refund from Motability would be based on the Offical AP and such these few people could send their cars back for profit…..

      Not advising to try it, but in theory is that how it would work out??

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    • #105246
      vinalspin
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        Nope, the dealer contributes to the AP so you would get back the AP (pro-rata) that you paid, the amount you pay goes down on the lease agreement.

        #105256
        Noel

          Our lease shows only the offical AP, not what we paid to the dealer, so Motability will have received the full AP from the dealer, and have no idea what we paid.

          #105259
          Brydo
          Participant

            I think your right Noel, you would get a pro rata of the AP you should have paid not what was actually paid. The amount you pay is between you and the dealer, as far as motability are concerned you paid the full AP.

            The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
            Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

            #105263
            Noel

              I must stress I’m not doing this, I was just wondering as some on here got BMW’s for £0 AP and if they returned them they would get best part of £2000 back.

              No doubt thats why Motability dont like AP discounts

              #105305
              Elly

                So when you return / change your car you get back the A P you originally paid and a good condition bonus? Have I got that right? If so, I didn’t realise.

                #105306
                Elly

                  Ignore my question, sorry, being blonde! You don’t get it back of course.

                  #105307
                  Zuby

                    @Elly, nope just the GCB, the AP is never returned as far as I know

                    #105309
                    Waltersoprano1
                    Participant

                      Does anyone know the dealer groups that do discounts as I’ve never came across them in the Glasgow area ?

                      I’ve used Arnold clark group for my cars

                      #105311
                      Anonymous

                        The answer is simple: you would get the pro-rata amount back of the full (‘book price’) Advance Payment.

                        So, using your example, if BMW sold you a 3 Series for £0 AP, but it was in the price guide at £1,999; you would get a pro-rata refund based on £1,999. Crafty, eh?

                        Your Advance Payment goes to the dealership, but it does not go to Motability. Instead, it fills a gap in the dealership’s invoice. For example, the BMW I used above: let’s say it’s worth £24,999 as a Motability sale to the dealer; the dealership would get £23,000 from Motability and £1,999 from you = the invoice amount expected.

                         

                        #105312
                        Avatar photoWinston

                          Hi Walter!

                          i tried about a dozen dealerships around the Glasgow area , unfortunately Arnold Shark weren’t willing to do any deals

                          tried a few independent dealers out towards Edinburgh/Ayrshire and the best they offered was £100 off

                          so that’s when I got in touch with this forums favourite dealer Roger @ JCT600 in Hull

                          and the  rest is history ??

                          seems up here in Scotland no one is really willing to do a deal ??

                          #105315
                          Brydo

                            Scotland is a virtual AP discount dead zone, for whatever reason the dealers up here very rarely do deals. I was fortunate to get £600 off our XC60 from Taggarts in Motherwell, but these a few and far between.

                            #105316
                            roly
                            Participant

                              The discussion of pro-rata AP refunds is of course only relevant if you agree a return of the vehicle prior to 3 year anniversary of the lease.

                              #105319
                              Waltersoprano1
                              Participant

                                Scotland is a virtual AP discount dead zone, for whatever reason the dealers up here very rarely do deals. I was fortunate to get £600 off our XC60 from Taggarts in Motherwell, but these a few and far between.

                                assuming it’s maybe because there’s fewer dealers in Scotland so less fighting over customers

                                #105321
                                Avatar photoWinston

                                  I don’t know that about Arnold Shark is the biggest dealer in the UK and practically got a dealership on every Street Corner lol

                                  i was in Linwood retail park yesterday and there must be about a dozen dealerships there ( sadly all owned by Arnold Clark )

                                  there is no harm trying as many dealers as you have the energy to, but like Byrdo says any good deals are far and few between

                                  #105323
                                  Waltersoprano1
                                  Participant

                                    I don’t know that about Arnold Shark is the biggest dealer in the UK and practically got a dealership on every Street Corner lol i was in Linwood retail park yesterday and there must be about a dozen dealerships there ( sadly all owned by Arnold Clark ) there is no harm trying as many dealers as you have the energy to, but like Byrdo says any good deals are far and few between

                                    you’d think with it having loads of dealerships they’d fix the potholes in the retail park lol

                                    #105326
                                    Brydo
                                    Participant

                                      Walter what are you looking at for your next car?

                                      The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                      Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                      #105330
                                      Waltersoprano1
                                      Participant

                                        Walter what are you looking at for your next car?

                                        Looking at Qashqai or ford kuga – sue to order new car in June

                                        had two Clio’s that have been great but I feel like they don’t have the best back support

                                        under 25 so limited to what I can get and also have auto license and have steering aid so limited even more haha

                                        #105332
                                        Avatar photoWinston

                                          Haha one min you’re looking for discounts then you want the potholes fixed? Lol

                                          cmon mate this is Scotland , we’ll be lucky to get a working set of traffic lights ??

                                          #105333
                                          Waltersoprano1
                                          Participant

                                            Haha one min you’re looking for discounts then you want the potholes fixed? Lol cmon mate this is Scotland , we’ll be lucky to get a working set of traffic lights ??

                                            lol well don’t ask don’t get ???

                                            #105336
                                            Avatar photoWinston

                                              This is very true!, unfortunately up here it’s usually … we ask… we don’t get lol

                                              but you need to be in it to win it ?

                                              #105381
                                              Elly

                                                <p style=”text-align: left;”>Waltersoprano1 … Kuga has great lumbar support, I’m finding it hard to find a car that has as good support now but quite fancy a change and also, Kuga still isn’t in the list yet. Like you I also need Automatic.</p>

                                                #105391
                                                Waltersoprano1
                                                Participant

                                                  <p style=”text-align: left;”>Waltersoprano1 … Kuga has great lumbar support, I’m finding it hard to find a car that has as good support now but quite fancy a change and also, Kuga still isn’t in the list yet. Like you I also need Automatic.</p>

                                                  yeah noticed it’s not available at the moment  so hope it’s back on the scheme by June ?

                                                  #105402
                                                  Anonymous

                                                    AP is returned pro rata if returned earlier than agreed

                                                    #105420
                                                    Dogboss

                                                      Some Motabilty discounts here including Annie Shark ?

                                                      https://www.motaclarity.co.uk/news/motability-deals

                                                       

                                                      #105541
                                                      Waltersoprano1
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                                                        Some Motabilty discounts here including Annie Shark ? https://www.motaclarity.co.uk/news/motability-deals

                                                        thanks bookmarked that website so will be useful nearer ordering date ?

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