[richjackdan]

So, I recently got my brand new Tucson through Motability.
Beautiful car but, after only 700 miles, a message has come up on screen about regeneration!
Dealer tells me it’s down to my driving style, short journeys etc… but only 700 miles?!

He tells me all new cars have this…my Peugeot 3008 didn’t have any issues yet same journeys and driving style?

I was reading elsewhere of Sportage drivers having this same problem

so, my question is

Are there any new cars suited to short journeys?

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[MickC]

I have a Ford Kuga 2.0 ecoblue diesel auto awd and my journeys are 90% 5 miles or less in urban area,never had a message about regen ever in 33 months of ownership.

[Jojoe]

We had ŠKODA Octavia Diesel, average journey was 7 miles each way in stop start traffic. We only ever had the DPF regen issue once. Try giving it an occasional motorway blast.

Enyaq EV

[BigDave]

richjackdan wrote:

So, I recently got my brand new Tucson through Motability. Beautiful car but, after only 700 miles, a message has come up on screen about regeneration! Dealer tells me it’s down to my driving style, short journeys etc… but only 700 miles?! He tells me all new cars have this…my Peugeot 3008 didn’t have any issues yet same journeys and driving style? I was reading elsewhere of Sportage drivers having this same problem so, my question is Are there any new cars suited to short journeys?

Can you confirn whether your vehicle has a diesel or petrol engine?

The reason is that petrol (gasoline) particulate filters, as fitted to many new petrol vehicles, work differently to diesel particulate filters. Also different actions are needed to clear them.

For diesel particulate filters, you will need a high rev run on the motorway/fast A road to force a regeneration.

For petrol filters you need to allow the engine to overrun (such as going down a long hill without touching the accelerator thus allowing more air through the system) to force a regeneration/clear the filter. (A good friend with the Tucson 1.6 mhev petrol engine tells me a good run down Sutton Bank on the A170 in 2nd gear always sorts out the problem)!

As to suitability, if your journeys are so short, have you considered going electric? Many EV’s are ideal for very short journeys.

[kezo]

BigDave wrote:

richjackdan wrote:

So, I recently got my brand new Tucson through Motability. Beautiful car but, after only 700 miles, a message has come up on screen about regeneration! Dealer tells me it’s down to my driving style, short journeys etc… but only 700 miles?! He tells me all new cars have this…my Peugeot 3008 didn’t have any issues yet same journeys and driving style? I was reading elsewhere of Sportage drivers having this same problem so, my question is Are there any new cars suited to short journeys?

Can you confirn whether your vehicle has a diesel or petrol engine? The reason is that petrol (gasoline) particulate filters, as fitted to many new petrol vehicles, work differently to diesel particulate filters. Also different actions are needed to clear them. For diesel particulate filters, you will need a high rev run on the motorway/fast A road to force a regeneration. For petrol filters you need to allow the engine to overrun (such as going down a long hill without touching the accelerator thus allowing more air through the system) to force a regeneration/clear the filter. (A good friend with the Tucson 1.6 mhev petrol engine tells me a good run down Sutton Bank on the A170 in 2nd gear always sorts out the problem)! As to suitability, if your journeys are so short, have you considered going electric? Many EV’s are ideal for very short journeys.

Its PPF fitted to the petrol Kia Sportage/Hyundai Tuscon. Its a common fault, that Hyundai/Kia are aware of but, have not come with a suitable fix. A software update was released, although hasn’t fixed the issue – (Hyundai Customer Care Team have today (23.2.23) advised that a software update has been rolled out to dealers in the U.K to resolve PPF (known as GPF for the American market))

There is loads of complaints and plenty to read on the respective frorums, including the Sportage problems thread on here.

Getting the engine up to operating temperature and deaccelerating down hill or a long the flat in low gear, high rev’s, is worth a try but, does not alwas work or acts, as a tempory short term fix,

Similar to a DPF on a diesel mpg plunges when the PPF light is on.

[richjackdan]

Thanks for the replies folks.

its a 1.6 petrol Tucson ( ultimate )

I am nowhere near a motorway etc .. its a good journey away.

what really disappoints me is the fact that I have all this kind of info to the dealer ( who now won’t even reply to my emails )   So they were aware I did short journeys etc and where I live.

i find it really surprising that they dont even mention the fact that this may well happen, or that I may have to take it out on expensive journeys to clear the Ppf. Or that it can happen after only 700 odd miles?!

Theres no way I would’ve gone ahead with the car if I knew the above . Crazy that they don’t have to mention the ppf.

[Oscarmax]

richjackdan wrote:

Thanks for the replies folks. its a 1.6 petrol Tucson ( ultimate ) I am nowhere near a motorway etc .. its a good journey away. what really disappoints me is the fact that I have all this kind of info to the dealer ( who now won’t even reply to my emails ) So they were aware I did short journeys etc and where I live. i find it really surprising that they dont even mention the fact that this may well happen, or that I may have to take it out on expensive journeys to clear the Ppf. Or that it can happen after only 700 odd miles?! Theres no way I would’ve gone ahead with the car if I knew the above . Crazy that they don’t have to mention the ppf.

I would get in touch with Motability

Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

[kezo]

Oscarmax wrote:

richjackdan wrote:

Thanks for the replies folks. its a 1.6 petrol Tucson ( ultimate ) I am nowhere near a motorway etc .. its a good journey away. what really disappoints me is the fact that I have all this kind of info to the dealer ( who now won’t even reply to my emails ) So they were aware I did short journeys etc and where I live. i find it really surprising that they dont even mention the fact that this may well happen, or that I may have to take it out on expensive journeys to clear the Ppf. Or that it can happen after only 700 odd miles?! Theres no way I would’ve gone ahead with the car if I knew the above . Crazy that they don’t have to mention the ppf.

I would get in touch with Motability

Absolutely agree mate. Even an early termination, is something to consider.

The Tuscon isn’t that economical at the best of times, even with the PPF light off.

[DJP]

16 months and only had ppf fault once atm only doing short trips. I have heard mg also have the same issue

[richjackdan]

Do all new cars suffer from this then?

Am I screwed unless I go electric or is it just ‘ your luck ‘ if it affects you or not?

Would I be better off choosing a petrol electric hybrid?

[Author]

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