Thanks glos guy, I do keep looking at the older models, the new gran coupe, was a step down in interior quality and finish, i think the model, i just let go, was the last “solid” bmw. I also wonder if the young designers, are are thinking of folks using voice commands. There seems to be a redundant “tuning” button on the contols, maybe for other markets. Having watched a bit of the big motor show in China on YouTube, the European manufacturers stands were like ghost towns, all the Chinese brands, massive screens, front and rear, nice plush interiors, full of tech, lidar on the roof. Very little switchgear. The future?