Cheers, I will see what happens when we get the 6. I was done at midnight, going 24 in a 20 zone, which had just been introduced. I wondered why the BMW was pinging, as I thought it was a 30, I have driven down the road a thousand times. 20mph, limit all around now in south/outer London. Folks overtake you in anger, but i dont want another fine. The majority of participants at the speed awareness course, were middle aged, only one, caught by police, rest on camera. No one thought it was a fair cop.