Reply To: See China’s Abandoned EV Graveyard

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kezo
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    I have replied to many of these tpes of thread, such as the reply in the “looking ahead most cars on the scheme will be from China”

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    Alot of these video’s floating around on YouTube can be debunked with little research..

    There’s a few fields in China full of EV’s. In one field by As unused electric cars were seen parked alongside a river on the outskirts of Hangzhou. All the cars belong to an electric car sharing company called Microcity. Microcity is not the only car rental company which boomed with the rise in EV economy. Hundreds of others had started out, many of which went bust. One of the several reasons have been the inadequate experiences of the users over time. A bigger issue propelled by the entire car sharing model was the rise in traffic congestion in the country, as the number of cars was only being added to the total.

    There also video’s floating around on YouTube of another graveyard full of EV’s in France near Paris, that supposedly housed hundreds of derelict electric vehicles, the automobiles supposedly having been abandoned and left to decay because their battery storage cells had “given out” and were too expensive to replace. It was yet another demise of a car share business!…

    in 2011, the Autolib program offered the service of providing thousands of electric vehicles in the Paris area under a car-sharing program. Subscribes to the service were able to use the any of the fleet of 4,000 BlueCar cars as they wished, paying a fee each time depending upon how long they used the vehicle. At its peak in 2016, the program boasted 110,000 subscribers.

    However, Autolib slid from that peak into decline, due to a number of factors: Four thousand cars for over 100,000 subscribers meant many users were unable to find vehicles when they wanted them; users frequently left the cars dirty inside and damaged; and competition from ride-hailing apps such Uber eroded the customer base. By 2018,

    Autolib was running debts of tens of millions of euros and the program was discontinued in June of that year.

    In the end, most of the BlueCars in better condition were purchased and re-sold to new users or scrapped for parts. But a private company eventually stored some of the cars in not-so-good condition in a lot in an industrial area near Romorantin in Loir-et-Cher, as seen above — not because the vehicles’ storage cells had failed, but because the Autolib car-sharing program proved not to be a viable long-term business model.

    It is also not the case that the abandoned Autolib BlueCars’ batteries are “draining toxins into the ground.” As noted in reports on the subject, the batteries have been removed from the pictured vehicles.

    Although the photographs/videos are real; the accompanying description is misleading in multiple ways. This item is, in effect, an example of a failed business models rather than a failed technology. Just like city share bikes were never going to work with many left abandoned by users etc.

    There’s also rumours of BYD graveyards full of EV’s in multistorey car parks and fiedls such as seen in the video above. BYD abruptly stopped making combustion engine vehicles (anything without a plug) at the begining 2022. China’s second-biggest independent automaker next to Geely (Volvo), BYD or Build Your Dream in English, announced early in 2021, that it had stopped ultimately making cars with only an internal combustion engine (ICE). BYD will only continue to produce smaller ICE engines for its plug-in hybrids, next to battery-electric models. Its move is in response to Beijing’s pledge to boost green energy consumption to bring carbon emissions to a peak by 2030.

    BYD is among six carmakers – the others being Volvo, Ford, General Motors, Mercedes-Benz and Jaguar Land Rover – to have signed up to a global campaign to phase out combustion engine vehicles by 2040.

    BYD cars shown in one video (previously posted on another thread) infact show a multistory full of cars destined for the Chinese market, stored during China zero lockdown policy and infact are ICE vehicles or vehicles that are not PHEV’s. Ifact if you look at these cars they have grills. BYD cars seemingly abandoned in fiels (as the above video) are again basic hybrids or combustion engined with grills and are part of failed leasing/car sharing companies. BYD also stated in 2021 many of it no plug in hybrids have since been sold or held for spares as its commitment to provide ongoing parts to it customers of ICE/mild hybrid vehicles since its signing upto the Beijing pledge.

    2022 BYD is the largest seller of EV’s globally by volume overtaking Tesla. BYD is also the 2nd largest manufacturer of EV battery’s in the world behind CATL and have gigafactory’s throughout the globe including Europe.

    The story’s of Neta V going bankrupt as a failed startup are again false. Infact the company has ajor acking from CATL the world biggest battery manufacturer.  Neta Automobile, is also backed by Chinese cybersecurity firm Qihoo 360, reported a 294% increase in deliveries on a year-over-year basis. The startup has sold 49,534 electric vehicles. Any videos showing them as a failed start up are false and cars seemingly abandoned are a failure of micro share companies rather than Neta themselves!