@ajn I’m hoping I like it, I had a look round a friend’s older one, then got permission from my wife (she has final say on the cars, even though she doesn’t drive haha) I actually phoned picadors and done the order over the phone, they said we’re keep you updated but it will be middle of July if not before, so I haven’t actually driven one or seen a black one apart from pictures, thing is they’ve changed the alloys to black recently, and was told on the grandland forum it might turn up totally different as they seem to change specs a lot, the wife has said it better turn up nice or I’m in trouble ??