Lithium Scooter Battery Self Discharge Rate

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    Jojoe
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      Other half has a lithium powered travel scooter, mainly used for holidays. Not used since June, I topped the battery up a couple of months ago, came to top up again today and was surprised it took 3 hours to charge. It is a very large capacity (Li Tech Marathon) 26 mile range. Do lithium batteries self discharge, we have had the very warm weather in August if that affects it. Cheers.

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    • #195901
      rox
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        The rate of self-discharge is also heavily dependent on temperature. The hotter a given battery is, the quicker it will self-discharge. Most lithium-ion batteries have a self-discharge rate of between 5 and 10% per month. This means that a fully charged battery will lose between 5 and 10% of its charge per month.

        If you really wanna look at discharge rates of bateries more then checkout this link

        https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-802b-what-does-elevated-self-discharge-do

        #195902
        Jojoe
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          Cheers rox that’s very helpful. I thought the high temperatures we had in July and August May have speeded up the discharge rate. The scooter is stored in the conservatory, I’m glad I took the battery out and left it under the stairs, it would’ve cooked.

          #195953
          ChrisK
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            This thread got me a bit worried when I first read it because back in March I got myself an auto-folding scooter that came with Li-on batteries.

            I have two batteries for the scooter used in a flip-flop way, one on, one off, after every use and as it used a few times a week its not a problem.

            Where my problem is, if it is a problem, is my old scooter that I upgraded the batteries from lead acid to li-on and I haven’t used it since March.

            Now I’ve always been lead to believe that Li-on batteries have a very slow discharge rate but should be stored after a full charge. So seeing this thread the other day I quickly got the old scooter batteries from out under the stairs and charged them up and they were fully charged within ten minutes so in 6 plus months they haven’t discharge much at all but thanks for a timely reminder guys. ?

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            Avatar photoMike 700
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              I have a 2015 Pride Quest , bought second hand at 18 months old, in case of emergency & holidays , and it came with a sealed Lithium battery pack .

              It has been unused, folded up in the garden shed for over 3 years , and last week I was putting the garden chair covers away, and had to move it.

              So I put the key in and rode it out – still enough charge in it for 3-4 minutes use, after all that time.

              Charged the battery for 4 hours or so, and it now shows it to be full – haven’t tried it since, and although I am confident it will be ok, I am now checking every week & charging if necessary, because ‘ have you seen the price of them ‘?

               

              #196023
              Jojoe
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                Mike, not sure I’d leave the battery pack in the shed, I may be mistaken and I’m happy to be corrected, but I’m not sure constant freezing temperatures in the winter are good for batteries. I keep ours under the stairs.

                #196024
                Wigwam
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                  Mike, lithium batteries last longer if stored with 40-50% charge.  Best not to keep topping it up like you would a lead acid battery. Only charge it when you want to use it.

                  #196027
                  Wigwam
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                    Spare lithium batteries for computers were recommended kept in a fridge to slow down their normal deterioration, so unless it ever freezes in your shed, Mike, it seems like a good place!

                    #196038
                    Avatar photoMike 700
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                      Thank you gentlemen,

                      I have taken the battery pack off the scooter and found a place to store it under the stairs.

                       

                      #196042
                      Avatar photoMike 700
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                        WW

                         

                        thanks, it does get extremely cold as it is a metal shed.

                        what I have done over the summer is put some cover over it in  that I bought some

                        artificial grass at a really knockdown price and covered the whole  shed,  except for the vents .

                        time will tell

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