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Hello
im gutted I’ve just got my deposit for an xc40 petrol only to find now been taken off scheme. Just the recharge ones and I have to park my car on street so no where to charge it. I’m gutted!!
I have a Kia Sportage which I would like to change as so noisy in the cabin. With my daughter having speech difficulties I can’t always hear her even with windows up and stereo off.
ang suggestions? And why do they keep taking cars off the scheme when next price change hasn’t come around yet. Gutted ?
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Have you thought of going full electric? Quite a bit quieter than an ice car, and even without using home charging still cheaper than conventional fuel. Failing that, citroen are always quiet cars in my opinion, and comfortable to boot.
Laura – if you really had your heart set on the XC40 you could always get the T5 Recharge and just run it on petrol? As with all PHEV’s, they are a bit of a compromise, but it at least gives you the car you want. Apparently most PHEV’s go to company car drivers who get them for the lower company car tax but rarely plug them in! You would still get a tiny bit of electric through the braking regeneration or could even let the petrol engine charge the electric motors, but that’s not very cost efficient. I certainly wouldn’t remotely consider a fully electric car if you can’t charge off road.
I think that BEV comment needs qualifying. Plenty of people have BEVs who don’t have their own off road charging. What what be more accurate us to say I wouldnt go BEV unless you have a charging strategy that could be:
Neighbours house (zap map now have list available chargers at people’s homes)
Nearby chargers in local bays/car parks
Charging at work
And more. There’s more to charging than having your own charge point although how whether that is suitable for one is up to the individual concerned but not bring able to charge at home us certainly not a deal breaker.
Some people even throw a granny charger across the pavement then put commercial grade cable safety covers over them to protect the public altho I wouldn’t like to do that personally.
Say you got a Kona that’s easily 250 miles before you need to charge for many people that’s a top up charge once or twice a week which you could do at your local supermarket whilst you shop & job done.
Changing to BEV is about a total change in approach to fueling, instead of driving until empty & refill like dinopop it’s more convenient to topup whenever you can that 40 mins at Tesco adds up (esp as it’s free)
When we had a T5 recharge we had it for a few hours and even when the battery showed empty it still seemed to scrape some power in slow moving traffic.
A few people we’ve spoken to never charge it and has said above people get them as company cars
The prices have come down this quarter and I just look as it’s a bonus over the T3
How much was the petrol one you was looking at?
I think that BEV comment needs qualifying. Plenty of people have BEVs who don’t have their own off road charging. What what be more accurate us to say I wouldnt go BEV unless you have a charging strategy that could be: Neighbours house (zap map now have list available chargers at people’s homes) Nearby chargers in local bays/car parks Charging at work And more. There’s more to charging than having your own charge point although how whether that is suitable for one is up to the individual concerned but not bring able to charge at home us certainly not a deal breaker. Some people even throw a granny charger across the pavement then put commercial grade cable safety covers over them to protect the public altho I wouldn’t like to do that personally. Say you got a Kona that’s easily 250 miles before you need to charge for many people that’s a top up charge once or twice a week which you could do at your local supermarket whilst you shop & job done. Changing to BEV is about a total change in approach to fueling, instead of driving until empty & refill like dinopop it’s more convenient to topup whenever you can that 40 mins at Tesco adds up (esp as it’s free)
Richard. There was nothing inaccurate about my comment. I said that I wouldn’t consider a fully electric car without off road charging and I wouldn’t. Others might, but I wouldn’t. The ‘solutions’ that you suggest further underline the reasons for my view! Of course, if an EV is what people want and they don’t have safe and proper off road charging then there are ways to make it work, but I was assuming that as Laura wanted a petrol car, she was wanting to simply pop in to a petrol station every 500 to 600 miles and after 3 or 4 minutes be on the road again for the next 500 to 600 miles. Certainly a lot simpler and a hell of a lot less time and hassle, but each to their own. That’s why I suggested the PHEV as a compromise. You get a bit of electric puff but don’t have any of the issues or challenges that you mention in your post.
Well said Glosguy. I agree 100%
I prefer to shove the fuel in and go, all this charging stuff is way off for me charging point or not..?
Waiting around to for anything really p!$$£s me off..
xc40 b4 at the moment, hopefully by time of renewal this charging thing will be much better or hopefully just get another fuel car..?
Thanks, my nearest charge point which is safer is Asda in the town centre. I don’t have really a safe enough point to charge as loads of kids and school at the top of the road so be unsafe on path. I just want a petrol one really as also loose boot space from the battery. I dunno il have to see. I can easily charge in town once a week for 1/2 hours but rather not as my car is mainly used for school run and hospital app. I’ve done 24500 in nearly 5 years
Thanks, my nearest charge point which is safer is Asda in the town centre. I don’t have really a safe enough point to charge as loads of kids and school at the top of the road so be unsafe on path. I just want a petrol one really as also loose boot space from the battery. I dunno il have to see. I can easily charge in town once a week for 1/2 hours but rather not as my car is mainly used for school run and hospital app. I’ve done 24500 in nearly 5 years
<p style=”text-align: left;”>I would genuinely suggest looking at an electric option with that mileage. Your about a hundred miles a week, so.something like a e-2008, mokka etc you could charge once a week, something with more range, id3, Kona, soul you could get a couple of weeks between charges. At that mileage range and charging anxiety are non existent, its something you can do at your leisure.</p>
With low miles like that I wouldn’t be bothered about electric unless you want to do the green thing, me personally I would opt for a car I like and ticks the boxes.
Electric would probably only save you a matter of pounds a week, if you was covering serious miles then it could be a saving
Thanks, my nearest charge point which is safer is Asda in the town centre. I don’t have really a safe enough point to charge as loads of kids and school at the top of the road so be unsafe on path. I just want a petrol one really as also loose boot space from the battery. I dunno il have to see. I can easily charge in town once a week for 1/2 hours but rather not as my car is mainly used for school run and hospital app. I’ve done 24500 in nearly 5 years
Laura – I believe I am right in saying that there is no loss of boot space with the XC40 T5 Recharge, unlike other PHEV’s, but perhaps someone who has ordered one can confirm (Wigwam?). To be clear, I am no great fan of the XC40 personally, so I’m not being parochial. It was on my short list, but I don’t like the look of it and, as with all PHEV’s, they are a bit of a compromise if you are a keen driver, so I dismissed it on those grounds. However, if you really like the XC40 I wouldn’t dismiss it without establishing the boot situation first.
I know that there are a lot of EV enthusiasts on this forum who will make them work regardless of the challenges, but I would be very wary of getting one if you don’t have off-road charging. You only have to read the ‘solutions’ that they suggest to realise that it is far from ‘hassle free motoring’, which most of us want. We have a large garage that we park in, so charging would be a doddle and 95% of our journeys are less than 50 miles, so many would think that an EV would be a natural choice for us – and part of me would like one – but it’s the other 5% of journeys that put me off the idea. These are mainly holidays and the last thing we would want to have is range anxiety or the hassle of finding places to recharge. Two years ago we did a 3 week touring holiday of Scotland, covering 2,500 miles, and on a couple of days in the remote parts we even had range anxiety with a diesel! The holiday would have been completely impossible with an EV. Even on shorter distance holidays, we couldn’t be doing with charging stops. Would drive me nuts and take the pleasure out of driving. Personally, if I didn’t have a garage or driveway I wouldn’t consider an EV for a split second.
PHEV’s are a different matter altogether though and the majority of people who drive them don’t ever plug them in (which seems daft to me but, as I said earlier, it’s a tax dodge). These drivers drive them solely as petrol cars, with a bit of electric from regeneration. Might be worth test driving one though, as the petrol engine in the T5 Recharge is a bit rough and doesn’t have great mpg, although that might not be an issue for you with your low mileage. XC40’s seem to have very short lead times compared to similar cars, which might also be a factor for you. I’ve ordered a BMW X1 and 4 to 6 months seems to be the norm on those at present and is increasingly becoming the case with many other manufacturers.
@Laura jones The above comments are probably more accurate than most. I know you said you have low mileage and wanted a quiet car for your daughters needs, so an electric car probably wouldn’t fit that bill as apparently, they’re not much cheaper, nor as quiet as an ICE around town! ?
Even at 30p per kwH, ypu would be looking at a fuel bill of around £400 a year, in town you are looking at almost silent motoring helping with your daughters speech issues, generally good performance around town, range anxiety etc not going to be an issue with your mileage.
This has nothing to do with being an EV enthusiastic, I fact I haven’t even collected mine, I just think with your mileage and your daughters speech issues, an EV may be worth looking at hence why I suggested it.
XC40 recharge boot is the same size as the ICE models 🙂 meant we can get our wheelchair in.
Come on, people. Stop talking about EVs. Laura has said she can charge half an hour in town once a week but would rather not. That’s the reality.
As for the hybrid version of the XC40 that she wanted, I would say the AP is much the same as she planned for, the car will still take advantage of the battery through regenerative charging, giving smoother and quieter stop/start driving, and over the next three years local charging infrastructure will inevitably improve. If she decided on an XC40, I think she should still get one. And as has been pointed out delivery times seem shorter than many alternatives.
Laura – as per the separate thread that I’ve just started, it appears that Volvo have stopped taking orders on the XC40 T5 Recharge from today, so sadly that may no longer be an option for you. Apparently it’s the dreaded semiconductor issue that is blighting the industry. Dealer tells me no more likely before the end of the year which, if true, will be a great shame as it’s been a very popular addition to the Motability scheme.
How about the bmw, they are meant to be quite good.?
Laura, I just posted in the separate thread answering Glos Guy:
I have had further clarification from my dealer about the screenshot you posted.
He says “No capacity currently available generally means for this month, possibly next month which is why we have lead times of up to 8 weeks as they are waiting for a slot to be available.”
Nothing to do with component shortages then, just a full order book. He is continuing to take orders and there is no reason any Volvo dealer should not take an order.
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