Shipowners urged to protect vessels against electric-car fires Exports of lithiu

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    Ele
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      Shipowners urged to protect vessels against electric-car fires
      Exports of lithium ion-based products increase safety risks and pose ‘huge problem’ for shipping, says IMO

       

      Recent fires on board ships carrying electric cars have prompted a rush to boost the protection of vessels, with a regulatory official warning that growing exports of battery powered vehicles pose a significant safety risk. Heike Deggim, head of safety at the UN’s International Maritime Organization, said member states would draw up new rules next spring for shipping groups that transport vehicles powered by lithium-ion batteries.

      Like many others

      I Saw this coming a mile off

      As an EV driver myself I am simply posting this to encorage debate

      My own opinion based on the limited available knowledge is that EVs when used/driven/loaded onto ramps in a proper manner are less prone to catch fire than an ICE vehicle imo

      Appreciate if my whole post is read in full before commenting as I have noticed a few members skip through posts and jump into attack mode when the words EV/Fires are simply mentioned

      The link below touches on Shipowners urged to protect vessels against electric-car fires
      Exports of lithium ion-based products increase safety risks and pose ‘huge problem’ for shipping, says IMO

      It seems that the transportation of ALL types of loaded vehicles are to be looked at

      Remembering all types of vehicles will be transported on the same ship

      These vehicles can be and are often multi fuel vehicles some road worthy others not all on the same ship

      My understanding of the problem is limited and is as follows

      Firstly many of the ships loading ramps are not all ideal for EV loading

      Angle of ramp  (ex) the ships that have a sideways multi loading ramp system

      Time is money when a ship is to be unloaded/loaded and turned around

      Speed of process is maximised

      But by all accounts when EVs are loaded onto the ship at the same speed as an EV there is concern that the EV could bottom out on particular ramps and could lead to a fire after loading

      This is one of many other unconnected areas to be looked at Im sure

      Another thing is routine disconnection of ICE batteries ( not always done due to peer pressure when trying to meet a ships depature deadline

      Marine firefighters onboard are trained to a certain extent but lack everyday experience

      Experience that is missing but much needed if/when things kick off

      Ships future design will be another focus when needing to tackle a fire

      I have posted before that EVs are less likely to catch fire by themseles than an(ICEV)

      imo its when  (various situations)EVs are in a fires presence even through no fault then things may well become ugly quite quickly depending on the circumstances

      Ships and crews will now be under a strong spotlight for sure

      Constructive thoughts?

       

      https://www.ft.com/content/e3e72d21-3292-4b0c-b498-66ea15ae95d8

       

       

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      kezo
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        The simplist way, if it is indeed an issue, is to use fire blankets used in EV fires, whils’t they are being transported but, ultimately this will add cost and to who!

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        MFillingham
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          The issues isn’t the likelihood of combustion but the complexity of stopping the fire once it’s into the batteries.

          If a fire gains intensity and becomes significantly more complex to deal with whilst in an environment where the floors/walls around them are at risk of collapse in these extreme conditions then a plan needs to exist on how to either protect the batteries in the event of a fire or deal effectively with the fire once it’s got into the batteries.

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