Well, if you take off the new car rebate, it was zero. I had a Kona before my current Soul, which, like the Niro, is a much more comfortable drive. My spinal meningitis means I have to be sitting higher up. I love everything about the Kia, especially the paddles. If only the Mokka had Kia specs, I’d go for that for comfort. The advance payments on these vehicles are becoming prohibitive. Driving comfort, as well as range, is of prime importance. I went for a test drive of the award-winning Jeep Avenger Summit. Loved the ultra light steering, but the driving position caused me pain.