Reply To: Quarter 2 1st April 2024 – News and updates

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Anonymous

    @Glos Guy I use the same method as you to work out the best value,  but then I give hybrids a slight percentage penalty/handicap & electric cars an even larger penalty/handicap because hybrids are slightly overpriced & electric cars are massively overpriced (due to battery costs),  for example;  a BMW X1 xDrive23i xLine (0-62mph 7.1sec) costs £36,890 whilst the BMW X1 xDrive25e xLine (0-62mph 6.8sec) costs £44,670 & the BMW X1 xDrive30e xLine (0-62mph 5.6sec) costs £46,940 in comparison to the BMW iX1 xDrive30 xLine (0-62mph 5.6sec) which costs £54,125.

    I use 0-62mph times to find like-for-like comparables rather than horsepower or torque figures because electric cars need that extra power to compensate for the extra weight of the batteries.

     

    Even if one can charge at home,  one would never make up the huge premium one pays for an Electric Vehicle if bought at list price,  and if one can’t charge at home,  then an Electric Vehicle is more expensive per mile than an Diesel or Petrol equivalent.

     

    We did consider the new Ford Tourneo Custom Titanium X Luxe,  but it’s very expensive (but considering the list price I think APs were attractive,  especially for the 170 diesel auto) & the matrix headlights aren’t available to order until summer & this vehicle won’t be on the scheme in Q2 unfortunately (from what I was told yesterday).  The diesel isn’t very refined,  but has a 2.5t towing capacity for our caravan.  The 2.5l petrol hybrid has only around 200Nm torque compared to the 400Nm one gets with the diesel,  therefore the towing capacity is reduced to 1.85t.  The full-electric version has over 400Nm & a 2t towing capacity,  but it’s not available to order,  and towing & charging don’t go well together at the moment.  Also the cost of rapid charging is more than twice the cost of diesel per mile:

    https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/new-and-used-cars/article/electric-car-charging-guide/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge-an-electric-car-a8f4g1o7JzXj#least-efficient-electric-car-in-our-tests-mercedes-eqv-2020-people-carrier

     

    I agree the E-3008 GT is the one to beat now in terms of value for money,  but unfortunately it’s not suitable for us,  and also another huge minus about the E-3008 GT is that leather or leather-substitute isn’t standard;  it’s a £1,600 option (but it is Nappa leather & includes ventilated massaging front seats) & the surround camera is optional as well rather than standard.  On top,  the towing capacity is only 1.25t,  the rear headroom & legroom is very limited,  the boot is too small,  especially with the seats folded down;  it isn’t big enough,  even when compared to the Mazda CX-60 or KIA Sportage.

     

    Additionally,  the E-3008 GT doesn’t seem such good value when compared to the 3008 GT Hybrid which has a list price of £38,150,  as opposed to £49,650.