Thank you both for responding, The price is high on them , I had the badge stolen yesterday from my parking bay out side my home , Reported it to police as needed a crime reff number to order a new badge , order a new blue bade one on line . Glass for the window not coming until wed . so out of pocket for window . Could not keep paying for new one if happens again. just wondered if any one uses one and dose it feel solid , if you know what i mean but thank you both .