Reply To: Liz Truss says she would ignore ‘attention seeker’ Nicola Sturgeon

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rox
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    @daf Is biden better for the world than trump? Is what I asked.

    You said ‘If you dont see the difference between Trump and Biden then I pity you’ They are two completely different things. Triggered or what?

    Imo that’s many people’s issue they are blinded by the hate that has been drummed into them and is why many will hate the tories forever for example, as they do trump and just love sleepy joe, no matter what they do or will support the others who do exactly the same or worse, when they get to hold the rudder.

    You say they are hard right, if so the other alternatives are hard left then and as I have said it’s designed like that to cause division’s in society as then we are weaker and easier to control and govern over.
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    Lets get onto the real truth they are all a like, lets not kid ourselves.

    https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/politics/7045155/snp-controversies-salmond-feud-mackay-scandal/

    Someone has to be the fall person so the trail can be seen to stop with them. If some cannot or don’t want to see it then imo they already a lost cause. Those really in control have everything on those working under them otherwise they wouldn’t be there and they all have something to lose.

    You do as your told and when the time comes, they pay the price and fall on their sword and get some nice cushy little number after for their dedication to their masters, not to us the people or you wouldn’t even be selected or put forward in the 1st place.

    I don’t care if Scotland get independance at all. Pretty much if you had a vote and the english voted on it as well 100% you’d be free and England would have independance from Scotland also. No longer would we have to put up with all the backhanded sabotage to get what the SNP want and it’s always someone elses fault for everything.

    It’s somewhat like climate change, yep the climate changes, you cannot argue with that fact can ya? over global warming, as the climate does change and that can be used as the argument to do whatever needs to be done, but they never happy with this or that they want more / everything as really the motive is not what they say it is.

    If you do have another vote and the scots vote to stay what then? I hope they don’t but what if they do? what then?

    Another vote or it’s been rigged or they too stupid to vote and don’t deserve a vote. Cancel them?

    You did have a vote The “No” side won with 2,001,926 (55.3%) voting against independence and 1,617,989 (44.7%) voting in favour. The turnout of 84.6% was the highest recorded for an election or referendum in the United Kingdom since the January 1910 general election.

    But it was before we left the eu is not an excuse imo to have another vote, or that you might win it this time. The snp agreed to once in a lifetime and have gone back on that, when it didn’t go their way. Is that any different to the uk government going back on the brexit deal it agreed to.

    All you have to do is wait for something in the climate to change again to have another vote and another after that, till eventually people are so worn down by it all they give them what they want, as it will never end. Just like how now we left the eu remainers who now are rejoiners and it never ends. Scotland wanting independence will never end.

    Brexit is to blame for everything in some eyes, not the fact that they self sabotaging us succeeding not being part of the eu and also the eu plays on that fact. All the arguments for rejoining the eu or not leaving in the 1st place are the same for keeping the union. Same can be said for leaving the eu. Round and round we go..

    That’s what i don’t get. trading within the eu is a different matter to the political union of the eu, that we did not have a vote on the treaty. Ireland did and voted no, but then had to vote again as did the Netherlands if i remember correctly. Till the eu got the vote it required it would of went on and on, but they could not move forward without the treaty being ratified.

    Like the eu the snp will never be happy till they get their ulimate goal. The eu’s goal is to become the united state’s of europe and have one central government for the whole eu. They said they did not it was conspiracy but now they openly say that’s the plan, Just like with an eu army. So my view is why fight for independence or rights and then have then taken away or given away to some other external centralized power to control you from a far.