Reply To: Electric car drivers less stressed, shows survey

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gilders
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    Hi @Rene, thanks for trying to help. I already have a MHEV Sportage on order so, it’s highly unlikely I’ll be leasing an EV. The main reason I’ve been looking at EV’s and PHEV’s overall costs is partly general curiosity and also because I’m concerned about the mpg of the Sportage after missing out on the HEV. So please don’t waste any of your time working out how an EV may work out less expensive. It’s tricky enough when I have all my current gas and electric charges in front of me, never mind trying to work it out for somebody else without knowing all the info, such as miles driven, would it be a standard instalment for charge point, etc, etc

    I currently have a Golf GT DSG with the 150hp 1.4l ACT engine, that I believe your on-order GTE will have (maybe minus ACT – Active Cylinder Technology, as I’d guess the GTE would go to electric mode rather than 2 cylinder mode). I drove to North Wales, from West Yorkshire (my home address) and visited 3 different areas. Most miles were motorway, with my adaptive cruise set to 75mpg, but once in Wales, the 3 areas I visited were small lanes (i.e. unfriendly for fuel economy) and I still achieved 52.5mpg in an almost fully loaded car. So you should expect great mpg and performance (mine does 0-60mpg in just under 8 secs).

    “In the new calculation, you’re £150 worse off. That’s offset, what, five fold by the petrol saved, ish” My sums included petrol I used the previous 12 months. It was an extra £994.24 in household fuel minus £771.87 spent on car fuel, which is where I came to £222.37, then adjusted to £150.03.

    The reason the gas part came in to the equation (which made up £809.99 of the £994.24 household fuel increase) is simply because of the statement Octopus put at the bottom of the Octopus Go tariff (“Octopus Go is an electricity only smart tariff. For gas, simply choose any Octopus gas tariff.”). If Octopus allow you to stick on same gas tariff, then the sums would be VERY different. I’m not sure if they’d be different enough to sway it in favour of a EV/PHEV, considering the higher AP and charge point installation. That’s sums for another day ha ha, but considering I only spent £771.87 in the last 12months on petrol and the nearest PHEV equivalent to my car on order is a Tucson  @£5599 AP (+£2300 more than Sportage) it would be a close call as to which would cost less over 3 years, with all costs considered.

    I’ve also realised that the main reason my gas price would rise so high (if Octopus won’t allow a customer to stay on their current tariff) is because utility companies are only offering fixed tariffs which are, of course, much more expensive. I think this is because the price cap on standard/variable tariffs, is lower that what it costs the company to buy and supply gas to the customer (or so they say).

    BTW my West Yorkshire gas tariff is 7.28p kWh, with 27.22p daily standing charge, so very similar to what you quoted.