Thank again for everyones advice, we did look at the vauxhall but the motability guy for the vauxhall we went to ended up almost talking us out of it, knowing our needs he said he had to be honest one of the fellas had taken the van over the weekend on a golf jolly cold, wet and 4 guys in the van plus luggage the got only a 82 mile range in it ? they could not get over the drop from the predicted range
So that put us off