@kezo You were lucky to get a granny charger. According to our local dealer, @Ianfca is correct. Hyundai now only supply a charger for use with charging points (type 2?) with the PHEVs now. Bizarrely, their EVs now also come with a granny charger. How daft is that? It seems utterly pointless to charge a PHEV on a public charger (isn’t one of the main attractions of them that you don’t have to?) and charging a BEV on a granny charger would take several days! The sales guy apologised for not thinking that through, but has said he would sort one out for us if we order (along with, hopefully, a set of mats – especially as AP discounts seem to be off the table). Updates since last post – handed the pre-facelift model back this afternoon. As we couldn’t charge it, we have been running around in Hybrid mode all day, which is clearly the worst mode for mpg. It seems as though ‘Auto’ is the most sensible mode to drive in, as it runs mostly in EV mode but the occasional engine usage keeps the battery going longer and extends it’s range. Unlike many PHEV drivers, I’m not being at all fooled by the stated mpg on the computer. For it to mean anything, you’d have to recalculate it manually, adding in the fuel equivalent cost of charging it – which nobody does as it’s far too complicated! I can’t be bothered to work it out either, but I don’t reckon that the fuel savings will be quite as much as some claim. Having to charge the thing after each use will be a faff compared to the zero maintenance petrol car that we have now, so I need to get my head around whether the saving is big enough to add in the hassle factor. I took out a brand new facelift PHEV Ultimate for a 10 mile blast. It didn’t seem as quick as the pre-facelift one but, as with the pre facelift model, it was still OK. Not blisteringly quick (like the iX1 30e that I had recently), and certainly not as quick as my current X1 20i, but perfectly adequate. The added weight of these PHEVs is quite noticeable and I can now see why they need to have high PS figures to help counter it. I’ve now got a facelift Hybrid Ultimate for 24 hours to see how the new tech compares. The sales guy said that although the PS is less than the PHEV, it would feel quicker as it’s lighter. I felt the opposite tbh and the engine noise was more noticeable and felt more strained than in the PHEVs. I’ll drive it more tonight (to test the matrix headlights) and tomorrow but I’m already thinking I’d prefer the PHEV, even if the maths aren’t necessarily in its favour. The leather seats in the Ultimate feel the same as the alcantara ones in the N Line S (I.e. not great). My shoulder blades seem to be at the top of the seat and it doesn’t feel right. It would be OK for 95% of our journeys, but might be more problematic on longer journeys. A mate of mine has had several Santa Fe’s and I’ve never found the seats comfortable in those either. If we get a Tucson PHEV I think we’ve settled on the Ultimate. Whilst I prefer the styling of the N Line S I prefer the leather seats and easy access system. The main decider though is that our local dealer has had a Cypress Green Ultimate with Cypress Green interior in for a customer, and my wife loved it (and the Motability entitlement is hers – I’m just the chauffeur
). It looks pretty much grey with just a hint of green and is a shade darker than even the darker of the two greys, so it helps to mask the naff plastic wheel arches and sills. The Cypress Green interior is basically the black leather interior but the dark grey cloth door trim strips and dashboard strips are a sort of lighter grey / green colour. Sounds awful but actually looks really nice and adds a bit of contrast. I still prefer the Moss Grey lighter interior, which I think would be a nice contrast with the dark exterior, but the boss will decide
). It looks pretty much grey with just a hint of green and is a shade darker than even the darker of the two greys, so it helps to mask the naff plastic wheel arches and sills. The Cypress Green interior is basically the black leather interior but the dark grey cloth door trim strips and dashboard strips are a sort of lighter grey / green colour. Sounds awful but actually looks really nice and adds a bit of contrast. I still prefer the Moss Grey lighter interior, which I think would be a nice contrast with the dark exterior, but the boss will decide The new one comes with a granny charger, so perhaps the sales guy wasn’t upto date on the new model. It isn’t even available as an option on the configorator as such and one of Hyundai’s press release suggested so too. However, the from 2023 update Hyundai stopped including it with the older model for some daft reason.
I asked at time of ordering mine, if they would chuck a set of mats in, the saleslady said she thought it came with them. On collection day I asked the same question again but wasn’t sure on entering the car there was a set in place, were they included or given free I don’t know. What I do know, as with most manufacturers a set of mats are provided in the boot when shipped!
If you keep the battery topped up the balanced range you see shouldn’t be far off. When I went up my parents I brimmed the tank the tank and again when I got home, like a fool! The calculations minus the 35 miles before the the car changed to a hybrid, wernt that different to that shown by the on board computer. I probably still have the piece of paper I did the calculation on lying around.
There has being a few complaint’s on Hyundai’s forums about the plastic insert a top of seats (silver band on the Ultimate) not being comfy and the remedy has been a small gel pad over the seat, However I’m not sure your refering to this and I haven’t come across it because I’m a short 5ft 9″.
As I said on the previous topic, choosing the colour wisely the side profile isn’t in your face. Personally I would of chosen moss grey because it lifts the cabin more, giving it an air of sophisication but, Ive learn’t my lesson from argueing with women! 😂
The lheadlights & matrix lights/highbeam are superior to the outgoing model and I get along fine driving country roads going up my parents however they aren’t quite in the same league as IQ matrix lights.
If you choose to have one I’m sure you’ll get use to PHEV in a short time and like it for what it is and where it sits in the market and I’m always happy to help:-)
Power wise its got some go if you command it, going from 0-60 in 7.1s or 0.4g according to my son (who races) timming gear. It’s not a very economical way of driving a PHEV though lol.