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- October 18, 2023 at 10:01 am#238958
I want to Add that it keeps being mentioned about Tesla becoming available on the Scheme and to clear up why it will never be unless the parts become cheaper as the insurance group is way above what Motability will Accept. It is a shame that in Group 40 for the basic Tesla is way too high and needs to come down to at least Group 29 at the most, so it is no good even talking about it on here and another thing with Tesla is the strange Display that many do not like where the speedo is to your left so to me I do like mine in front of me and hope The new Mini does not do this in there 2024 updated car my Mini has it in digital form straight in from and it is great.
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- October 19, 2023 at 6:44 pm #239238
I don’t think it has anything to do with insurance groups as the AWD Korean EV’s are in group 40.
October 20, 2023 at 9:19 am #239302I’ve said on here a few times that I like the Tesla, so much so that we considered buying one. I’ve now changed my opinion, I think the removal of indicator stalks is a step too far and selecting gear, wipers and air con from the screen would be too much for Mrs Joe who uses hand controls. Also the insurance is crazy, but that’s industry wide not just Tesla.
October 20, 2023 at 9:58 am #239307I was told by a Abarth senior that Motability will not go over the 29 insurance group on there cars and it was also told to me by motability as I have the Mini JCW which is lower insurance group and to be honest not only Tesla but other EVS may become too expensive to insure as was told in Car dealer Magazine when the boats ships catching fire recently they are wondering if the cost of insuring EVS will become too expensive or even uninsurable. They may have to go with more non combustible batteries, Which I think is starting to happen in more expensive EVS.
October 20, 2023 at 10:07 am #239308I was told by a Abarth senior that Motability will not go over the 29 insurance group on there cars and it was also told to me by motability as I have the Mini JCW which is lower insurance group and to be honest not only Tesla but other EVS may become too expensive to insure as was told in Car dealer Magazine when the boats ships catching fire recently they are wondering if the cost of insuring EVS will become too expensive or even uninsurable. They may have to go with more non combustible batteries, Which I think is starting to happen in more expensive EVS.
They are now saying the Fremantle Highway ship fire (probably) wasn’t caused by an EV fire.
October 20, 2023 at 10:22 am #239310I was told by a Abarth senior that Motability will not go over the 29 insurance group on there cars and it was also told to me by motability as I have the Mini JCW which is lower insurance group and to be honest not only Tesla but other EVS may become too expensive to insure as was told in Car dealer Magazine when the boats ships catching fire recently they are wondering if the cost of insuring EVS will become too expensive or even uninsurable. They may have to go with more non combustible batteries, Which I think is starting to happen in more expensive EVS.
This can no longer be the case. I’ve just checked the BMW i4 we have on order and that is in Group 38.
The Kia EV6 GT Line is in Group 34 and I suspect a few others are over Group 29 these days.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicOctober 20, 2023 at 12:38 pm #239331@Tim when were you told that as its no longer the case. As I said previously the Ioniq 5 / EV6 AWD 321bhp group 39-40. The MG ZS is in group 28, the Peugeot e-2008 and the Hyundai Kona Electric, which fall into groups 31-34. So unless Motability stick matchbox cars, insurance groups will be higher.
From memory group 29 was for ICE only cars, with group 16 for under 25’s however, this is raised 5 groups to group 21 for EV’s.
October 20, 2023 at 12:43 pm #239332Ian Durant
This post seems to assume that Tesla would want to join the Motability Scheme.
Its not their business model so it will never happen
October 20, 2023 at 12:53 pm #239336This post seems to assume that Tesla would want to join the Motability Scheme. Its not their business model so it will never happen
I believe there are
untruths“rumours” going around on certan Fb groups Jaguar and Tesla are joining, which are of course no and unlikely to ever be true.October 20, 2023 at 1:21 pm #239339From reading a lot of motoring journals , I believe the main reason Tesla are not on the list are the costs and timescales surrounding repairs and servicing.
Tesla have very few repair centres and are fiercely territorial about 3rd parties touching their vehicles. If a Tesla is damaged it will be off the road for longer than average, parts will have to come from factory so overall, much more expensive and slower to repair than other cars. That is why many private owners have found their insurance premiums rocket and some Insurance Companies refusing to insure them.
Why would Motability get involved in this headache when there are many quality alternatives?February 5, 2024 at 3:18 pm #257482Anonymous
From reading a lot of motoring journals , I believe the main reason Tesla are not on the list are the costs and timescales surrounding repairs and servicing. Tesla have very few repair centres and are fiercely territorial about 3rd parties touching their vehicles. If a Tesla is damaged it will be off the road for longer than average, parts will have to come from factory so overall, much more expensive and slower to repair than other cars. That is why many private owners have found their insurance premiums rocket and some Insurance Companies refusing to insure them. Why would Motability get involved in this headache when there are many quality alternatives?
Tesla wont ever be on it, its not their business model
February 5, 2024 at 3:45 pm #257480BYD are now on the scheme, but have very few dealerships or servicing so doubt that’s a compelling reason for Motability to not want Tesla.
Insurance groups I can see as an issue but Motability can factor that into a higher AP
Parts repairs etc are tesla actually worse than other EVs – They are all pretty bad as far as im aware!
I think the key issue is if Tesla want it – I guess Competition and smaller market share may influence that going forward!
February 5, 2024 at 3:54 pm #257488BYD are now on the scheme, but have very few dealerships or servicing so doubt that’s a compelling reason for Motability to not want Tesla.
BYD have a few dealerships, “that you can physically go into” and order a vehicle face to face, so meets MO’s business model.
Tesla has purely a digital sales model, so doesn’t meet MO’s business model.
February 5, 2024 at 4:38 pm #257496I posted this a few months back, here is a Facebook post from Motability explaining why Tesla won’t be joining the scheme.
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February 7, 2024 at 7:58 pm #257750Tesla have moved in Belfast. They moved about 200 meters down the road and have renovated a big unit in a 3 million pound investment. Strange thing is all the work seems completed and the big branding is up, then nothing, nothing has happened for months.
February 7, 2024 at 8:04 pm #257746Anonymous
If this is true god help me I’m going to hell because I want a Tesla more than the Ford
February 7, 2024 at 11:15 pm #257764If this is true god help me I’m going to hell because I want a Tesla more than the Ford
You could try and see if the username: ‘TeslaModel3Girl’ is available?
February 7, 2024 at 11:37 pm #257765Hideous vehicles, and supporting Musk. No thanks.
February 8, 2024 at 8:07 am #257778Tesla’s like all cars, are a subjective taste, and I wouldn’t choose to get one or not based on a minority shareholder! Musk owns under 15% of the company.
The advantages of Teslas far out way such concerns anyway.
Costs aside – which are coming down – The availability and ease of public charging, and constant improvements to driver assistance & range etc means this car would arguably be better in three years than it is now.
I’m not saying they’re a perfect choice, all cars have compromises, removal of indicator stork for example.
If I do ever get one – hopefully they can still add a toggle switch the my hand controls.
March 19, 2024 at 10:24 am #268770Wanted to put a quick update on this thread, as has been a while and have news.
The Motability source that stated Tesla and Polestar are joining Motability has stated that the Big Event NEC page will be updated next week announcing both there with hand controls for test drives.
I realise this isn’t the same as announcing that they are joining the scheme but cant imagine why either would be there with hand controlled cars to drive otherwise.
March 19, 2024 at 11:19 am #268772At the beginning of February this year Volvo decided to handover it 44% stake in Polestar to China’s Geely making them the direct owner of brand. Geely already own over 78% of Volvo.
Polestar has been struggling to make headway and its shares are down more than 83% since publically listing in 2022.
Polestar said last month that it had missed its already-reduced delivery targets for 2023.
Sounds like a perfect recipe for Polestar to be a prime contender for Motability!
March 19, 2024 at 12:30 pm #268782I think both Polestar and Tesla have valid but differing reasons to join the Motability scheme. BYD is taking a big bite out of both, and Tesla are no longer the #1 global EV seller that they were.
To be fair what manufacturer wouldn’t want to join the UKs biggest leasing company
March 19, 2024 at 1:27 pm #268792To be fair what manufacturer wouldn’t want to join the UKs biggest leasing company
Mercedes, Jaguar, Land Rover, Tesla, Polestar and Subaru.
March 19, 2024 at 1:33 pm #268793with the exception of jaguar/Land Rover the rest are confirmed or rumoured to join/re-join.
Subaru are confirmed, and the point of my post was to update on the confirmation of Tesla/Polestar
Mercedes are still in the rumour category
March 19, 2024 at 1:38 pm #268794Tesla are NEVER going to join the scheme. They sell every car they manufacture they don’t need the volume
Tesla don’t haggle so no Motability discount
Tesla are an AWFUL company to deal with so doubt Motability want the hassle
The cars aren’t unique they don’t bring anything special to the table that others already offer.
If you want a Tesla leave the scheme if you want a choice of nearly 1000 cars then forget Tesla. There are plenty of cars that ate just as good if not better and you’re not feeding a company that puts you in an abusive relationship
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