Why Tesla will not be on Motability Unless they Change

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  • #238958
    on the spectrum
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      I want to Add that it keeps being mentioned about Tesla becoming available on the Scheme and to clear up why it will never be unless the parts become cheaper as the insurance group is way above what Motability will Accept. It is a shame that in Group 40 for the basic Tesla is way too high and needs to come down to at least Group 29 at the most, so it is no good even talking about it on here and another thing with Tesla is the strange Display that many do not like where the speedo is to your left so to me I do like mine in front of me and hope The new Mini does not do this in there 2024 updated car my Mini has it in digital form straight in from and it is great.

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    • #239238
      kezo
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        I don’t think it has anything to do with insurance groups as the AWD Korean EV’s are in group 40.

        #239302
        Jojoe
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          I’ve said on here a few times that I like the Tesla, so much so that we considered buying one. I’ve now changed my opinion, I think the removal of indicator stalks is a step too far and selecting gear, wipers and air con from the screen would be too much for Mrs Joe who uses hand controls. Also the insurance is crazy, but that’s industry wide not just Tesla.

          #239307
          on the spectrum
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            I was told by a Abarth senior that Motability will not go over the 29 insurance group on there cars and it was also told to me by motability as I have the Mini JCW which is lower insurance group and to be honest not only Tesla but other EVS may become too expensive to insure as was told in Car dealer Magazine when the boats ships catching fire recently they are wondering if the cost of insuring EVS will become too expensive or even uninsurable. They may have to go with more non combustible batteries, Which I think is starting to happen in more expensive EVS.

            #239308
            Jojoe
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              I was told by a Abarth senior that Motability will not go over the 29 insurance group on there cars and it was also told to me by motability as I have the Mini JCW which is lower insurance group and to be honest not only Tesla but other EVS may become too expensive to insure as was told in Car dealer Magazine when the boats ships catching fire recently they are wondering if the cost of insuring EVS will become too expensive or even uninsurable. They may have to go with more non combustible batteries, Which I think is starting to happen in more expensive EVS.

              They are now saying the Fremantle Highway ship fire (probably) wasn’t caused by an EV fire.

              #239310
              72 dudes
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                I was told by a Abarth senior that Motability will not go over the 29 insurance group on there cars and it was also told to me by motability as I have the Mini JCW which is lower insurance group and to be honest not only Tesla but other EVS may become too expensive to insure as was told in Car dealer Magazine when the boats ships catching fire recently they are wondering if the cost of insuring EVS will become too expensive or even uninsurable. They may have to go with more non combustible batteries, Which I think is starting to happen in more expensive EVS.

                This can no longer be the case. I’ve just checked the BMW i4 we have on order and that is in Group 38.

                The Kia EV6 GT Line is in Group 34 and I suspect a few others are over Group 29 these days.

                2024 - BMW i4 Grand Coupe eDrive 35 Sport
                2020 - Volvo XC40 T4 Inscription
                2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronic

                #239331
                kezo
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                  @Tim when were you told that as its no longer the case. As I said previously the Ioniq 5 / EV6 AWD 321bhp group 39-40. The MG ZS is in group 28, the Peugeot e-2008 and the Hyundai Kona Electric, which fall into groups 31-34. So unless Motability stick matchbox cars, insurance groups will be higher.

                  From memory group 29 was for ICE only cars, with group 16 for under 25’s however, this is raised 5 groups to group 21 for EV’s.

                  #239332
                  Ian Durant

                    This post seems to assume that Tesla would want to join the Motability Scheme.

                     

                    Its not their business model so it will never happen

                    #239336
                    kezo
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                      This post seems to assume that Tesla would want to join the Motability Scheme. Its not their business model so it will never happen

                      I believe there are untruths “rumours” going around on certan Fb groups Jaguar and Tesla are joining, which are of course no and unlikely to ever be true.

                       

                      #239339
                      Mossfinn
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                        From reading a lot of motoring journals , I believe the main reason Tesla are not on the list are the costs and timescales surrounding repairs and servicing.
                        Tesla have very few repair centres and are fiercely territorial about 3rd parties touching their vehicles. If a Tesla is damaged it will be off the road for longer than average, parts will have to come from factory so overall, much more expensive and slower to repair than other cars. That is why many private owners have found their insurance premiums rocket and some Insurance Companies refusing to insure them.
                        Why would Motability get involved in this headache when there are many quality alternatives?

                        #257482
                        Anonymous

                          From reading a lot of motoring journals , I believe the main reason Tesla are not on the list are the costs and timescales surrounding repairs and servicing. Tesla have very few repair centres and are fiercely territorial about 3rd parties touching their vehicles. If a Tesla is damaged it will be off the road for longer than average, parts will have to come from factory so overall, much more expensive and slower to repair than other cars. That is why many private owners have found their insurance premiums rocket and some Insurance Companies refusing to insure them. Why would Motability get involved in this headache when there are many quality alternatives?

                           

                           

                          Tesla wont ever be on it, its not their business model

                          #257480
                          CassarJ
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                            BYD are now on the scheme, but have very few dealerships or servicing so doubt that’s a compelling reason for Motability to not want Tesla.

                            Insurance groups I can see as an issue but Motability can factor that into a higher AP

                            Parts repairs etc are tesla actually worse than other EVs – They are all pretty bad as far as im aware!

                            I think the key issue is if Tesla want it – I guess Competition and smaller market share may influence that going forward!

                            #257488
                            kezo
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                              BYD are now on the scheme, but have very few dealerships or servicing so doubt that’s a compelling reason for Motability to not want Tesla.

                              BYD have a few dealerships, “that you can physically go into” and order a vehicle face to face, so meets MO’s business model.

                              Tesla has purely a digital sales model, so doesn’t meet MO’s business model.

                               

                              #257496
                              Jojoe
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                                I posted this a few months back, here is a Facebook post from Motability explaining why Tesla won’t be joining the scheme.

                                #257734
                                Nas89
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                                  #257750
                                  des
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                                    Tesla have moved in Belfast. They moved about 200 meters down the road and have renovated a big unit in a 3 million pound investment. Strange thing is all the work seems completed and the big branding is up, then nothing, nothing has happened for months.

                                    #257746
                                    Anonymous

                                      If this is true god help me I’m going to hell because I want a Tesla more than the Ford

                                      #257764
                                      MissingSound7
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                                        If this is true god help me I’m going to hell because I want a Tesla more than the Ford

                                        You could try and see if the username: ‘TeslaModel3Girl’ is available?

                                        #257765
                                        crippleddad
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                                          Hideous vehicles, and supporting Musk. No thanks.

                                          #257778
                                          CassarJ
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                                            Tesla’s like all cars, are a subjective taste, and I wouldn’t choose to get one or not based on a minority shareholder! Musk owns under 15% of the company.

                                             

                                            The advantages of Teslas far out way such concerns anyway.

                                            Costs aside – which are coming down  – The availability and ease of public charging, and constant improvements to driver assistance  & range etc means this car would arguably be better in three years than it is now.

                                            I’m not saying they’re  a perfect choice,  all cars have compromises, removal of indicator stork for example.

                                            If I do ever get one – hopefully they can still add a toggle switch the my hand controls.

                                            #268770
                                            CassarJ
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                                              Wanted to put a quick update on this thread, as has been a while and have news.

                                              The Motability source that stated Tesla and Polestar are joining  Motability has stated that the Big Event NEC page will be updated next week announcing both there with hand controls for test drives.

                                              I realise this isn’t the same as announcing that they are joining the scheme but cant imagine why either would be there with hand controlled cars to drive otherwise.

                                              #268772
                                              kezo
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                                                At the beginning of February this year Volvo decided to handover it 44% stake in Polestar to China’s Geely making them the direct owner of brand. Geely already own over 78% of Volvo.

                                                Polestar has been struggling to make headway and its shares are down more than 83% since publically listing in 2022.

                                                Polestar said last month that it had missed its already-reduced delivery targets for 2023.

                                                Sounds like a perfect recipe for Polestar to be a prime contender for Motability!

                                                #268782
                                                CassarJ
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                                                  I think both Polestar and Tesla have valid but differing reasons to join the Motability scheme.  BYD is taking a big bite out of both, and Tesla are no longer the #1 global EV seller that they were.

                                                  To be fair what manufacturer wouldn’t want to join the UKs biggest leasing company

                                                  #268792
                                                  wmcforum
                                                  Which Mobility Car

                                                    To be fair what manufacturer wouldn’t want to join the UKs biggest leasing company

                                                    Mercedes, Jaguar, Land Rover, Tesla, Polestar and Subaru.

                                                    #268793
                                                    CassarJ
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                                                      with the exception of jaguar/Land Rover the rest are confirmed or rumoured to join/re-join.

                                                      Subaru are confirmed, and the point of my post was to update on the confirmation of Tesla/Polestar

                                                      Mercedes are still in the rumour category

                                                      #268794
                                                      Rich44
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                                                        Tesla are NEVER going to join the scheme. They sell every car they manufacture they don’t need the volume

                                                        Tesla don’t haggle so no Motability discount

                                                        Tesla are an AWFUL company to deal with so doubt Motability want the hassle

                                                        The cars aren’t unique they don’t bring anything special to the table that others already offer.

                                                        If you want a Tesla leave the scheme if you want a choice of nearly 1000 cars then forget Tesla. There are plenty of cars that ate just as good if not better and you’re not feeding a company that puts you in an abusive relationship

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