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Well I am fascinated by how much information some of your EV’s give you, mine gives very little away but I do have a very nice picture of the batteries that lights up the dash if required.
Anyway I have calculated some figures which I am sure will make some of you think ev is not worth it but firstly bear I. Mind my car is 5.3 metres long and seats 8 extremely comfortably with enough room for 8 lots of luggage we on the other hand just have 5 seats a nice shaggy rug on the floor a fridge 4 dogs s large wheelchair and a hoist.
So since the 1st September we have travelled 5700 miles in firstly the Peugeot then the Vauxhall but they are identical vehicles so I am going to calculate as one. We have used 3900 kw of electricity this gives us an average of 1.46 miles per KW, you are probably thinking that’s terrible but since September it’s been Autum /winter driving so I reckon on the year we might get nearer the 2 kWh average. So that’s 3900 KW charged at the night rate of 5.5p giving a total cost of £214.50 now if we had our beloved Alhambra which di an actual mileage of 40.6 mpg over the time we had her the cost for the same miles would have been £982.75 so saving £768.75
These are the facts rather than what the car is telling me do I think that’s pretty good obviously we know it’s all going up but luckily I remain on this tariff until the end of August and then hopefully the night rate will be 8.5p still giving a huge saving over the diesel. 👍
- This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by Windy.
Sorry about your loss and your car issues. We took delivery of a Peugeot Traveller on September 1st with 50 days of hell fortunately we escaped the car and the problems you can probably still find the threads on here. We had no help from Peugeot and although it was a battle getting rid was the only sense of relief that said if Ed hadn’t found an alternative cancellation we would have joined a long waiting list with no car so it really is a bad time to have a bad car.
once again sorry for you trouble
In answer to the original question
Not far but far enough
hope this helps
I don’t understand the Tesla furore? to me they are one of the ugliest cars around but in my defence I still covet the Bentley Arnage and the Mercedes 300 sl gullwing to me it’s automotive art and I am hoping that the changes coming with EV will spawn a new artistic era of automotive history. That said no Tesla owner need be threatened by my opinion I drive a Vivaro 😂
fwippers the problem with comparing EV to video recorders etc is that we treat them in this country akin to property with a realistic recorded and predicted residual value running and financing a huge used vehicle market.
that leads me to believe we are more likely to see new prices stagnate than decrease. In fact I would sense the increase of ICe vehicles toward the EV with a minor drop in price of the EV.
The cost of both new and used vehicles today is often ignored when reduced to a monthly payment either affordable or not affordable regardless of vehicle.
I suppose we have to hope that an end to the rise in wholesale gas and electricity will end the increases eventually. unfortunately I doubt the price will come down things rarely do and no doubt oil will find a new high. I am pleased I have my EV and without doubt will have another although this one will definitely be extended. I just worry for those who cannot charge cheaply at home the KWh price once the new tariffs hit in the spring will be very high
Oscarmax when I did the initial research there were chargers at 60p kWh admittedly no where near me and certainly would never been used by me but now if there had been any doubt about the hone charger I just don’t think I would have taken the risk. My car only achieves between 2.4 and 3.1 kWh so it would quickly become expensive on the public system
When I was an auctioneer for Motability cars were not ready for sale without the V5 so that’s why I say it’s not usual for Motability.
Sarah very unusual for an ex Motability car not to have V5 my guess is it was once Motability but not last owner I would avoid
My car only has one level of regen and it’s called “B mode” go figure. But it’s not the art of regen that I enjoy it’s the art of never using the brakes, getting better and better I can travel 30 plus miles now never touching the brake so I have these wonderful shiny discs. I do think it makes for a more responsible thinking ahead type of drive too.January 23, 2022 at 11:05 am in reply to: Electric vehicle myth busting: a new series from me. #175175
Another way I have noticed is warm car quickly without driving as they do warm up quickly then put into eco mode and it stays warm
January 23, 2022 at 10:45 am in reply to: Electric vehicle myth busting: a new series from me. #175167
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I would say this is rubbish but I can give another way of looking at it. I am the driver for my disabled wife so spend a lot of time parked outside hospital so imagine the cold winter last year I would turn engine on to keep warm then off until too cold then back on etc etc. so last week I had to wait outside hospital in EV now I knew i wasn’t going anywhere else that day except home so could waste range. Arrived at hospital didn’t turn motor off carried on with a/c listening to music turning temp down as required got in back for more legroom and looking at internet. After about 2 hours my wife returned and I think I had lost around 18 miles of range. But how much diesel would I have used for same period.
no I feel it’s a myth well busted
It’s a crazy thing but since being on Motability from 1990 we have experienced anything from wine and flowers to abuse and ableism. But I would say if the experience is good report it because we are all guilty of only mentioning the poor experiences. There are some excellent dealers who go above and beyond, we have learnt that sadly they are rarely local but because they will often deal over the phone despite the rules we find ourselves travelling huge distances for the car but with no regrets. As customers we should not allow ourselves to be treated as second class citizens after all most of us know the profit margin for a Motability car because we have been told by a disgruntled dealer, I find that is usually the starting point for a poor experience.January 14, 2022 at 12:26 pm in reply to: Well this was unexpected but now drive one of the best bargains on Motability #174424
glad it shows you another option we did in fact order the red but delay after delay and we took a cancellation in the grey don’t regret at all as we got our electric bill today and to run the house and car is £88 per month whereas prior our diesel bill was £220 per month so colour and yes we had an orange car too had to be compromised but like I say no regrets not with the huge savings.
I also was tempted by the i800 but had to rule it out purely on the bad mpg at that time it was a great deal but it was old tech on the engine and real mpg put it in low to mid 20,s living rural it would have been unaffordableJanuary 6, 2022 at 5:39 pm in reply to: Well this was unexpected but now drive one of the best bargains on Motability #173580
Ian I have used the 3 pin plug for charging wheelchair batteries and I have a battery Henry hoover so quite handy I wanted to put a plug in air freshener to counteract 4 stinky dogs but you would need an extension or double plug as they are an odd shape for where it isJanuary 6, 2022 at 11:34 am in reply to: Well this was unexpected but now drive one of the best bargains on Motability #173525
Ian I notice today that the Traveller has returned to scheme this only goes to make the Vivaro even more of a deal
I have had 96 cars and 27 motorcycles from v12’s to v twins. I do actually have photographs of all of them but will be a bit much so here is the latest and the very first
We have never cancelled due to a test drive in fact we always are unlucky with test drives
our current vehicle would be hard pressed to find one to test. However we have benefited on 4 occasions including this current car when a Motability customer does cancel and this time it was because vehicle arrived but charger did not so guy cancelled and we got a car in 4 days instead of 18 months so I always tell dealer to let me know of any cancellations and if you are genuine they will. The downside is why I am still driving my 3 rd grey car when I keep ordering red ones.January 2, 2022 at 1:08 pm in reply to: Well this was unexpected but now drive one of the best bargains on Motability #172979
Brydo motoring is a very personal thing that each of us are the best at. When I was auto auctioneer friends relatives etc would ask for your specific opinion in which car would be most suitable in price economy value etc. you would duly spend time seeking their perfect vehicle with the full knowledge that whatever you said would be completely ignored. It became a running joke really. So I do fully understand the reluctance for change and even though we save roughly £250 per month not one person I know, is yet to be convinced by our change to electric. Everyone finds their own way in the end for their own reason, I am just so glad we are benefiting from the change, I still find the savings incredible. But maybe that’s the point they are so great without doing your own calculations would you or I truly believe it. Long may it last that’s what I say.January 2, 2022 at 12:20 pm in reply to: Well this was unexpected but now drive one of the best bargains on Motability #172967
Brydo well I do think it looks good really I should have also mentioned that so far 4500 miles at an average of 2.4 miles per kWh means using Octopus go faster our total outlay for fuel has been £103 thus far the equivalent mileage in our previous wonderful Alhambra would have been £805 that’s a lot of beer tokens.January 2, 2022 at 12:08 pm in reply to: Well this was unexpected but now drive one of the best bargains on Motability #172964
Well Glos Guy it was nice to be vindicated as you do feel a bit of a berk when so much is wrong, I think there is an element of disbelief but this is how we expected it to be, quite interesting all the Traveller models have been removed
Rene Very interesting and I feel range will be more down to driving method, maybe the modes are more of an encouraging feature for iCE converts with lead feet.
when we got the car we were hoping for 120 in the warm weather and 80 in the cold whereas we can do 130 in warm and more than 100 depending on how cold, obviously we haven’t had extreme cold yet but I still feel preconditioning should produce 100
Between the two cars the Peugeot first and now the Vauxhall we have travelled just over 4 k
The Vauxhall has less of a range because A) everything works on it and
B)I can drive it faster as I don’t feel like I am going to die as we did in the Peugeot
Well done we got ours fitted after a lot of shouting but once HA realise it increases value of property that helped do now we even gave private Parking well done
Our car doesn’t have a large range so important to extract as much as possible. So firstly it’s always in max regen which is just the B button and with skill you can use one foot driving particularly as we live rurally, in fact if you look at the brakes they are all shiny and new from total lack of use. When I do local trips we always use eco but once range drops below 80 miles we use normal mode as make minimal mileage gain but drives much smoother and its fun watching sports cars in your rear view mirror as you leave roundabouts etc In a 5.3 metre van. Probably just me
After the dust had settled and we looked back on having a home charger we counted that there had been a total of 31 people involved in the process, we knew it was crazy but hadn’t realised how crazy until we sat down and counted them. We also realised at that point that level of efficiency,or inefficiency is not sustainable to achieve what is expected by 2030 there just isn’t enough time or enough people.