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I must say, based on this straw poll of two, this review seems to be harsh:
The electric only range is quoted at 33 miles, WLTP quote it at 28 but the reality is closer to 15-20 miles. The petrol engine is improved but remains very thirsty and the moment it kicks in you are draining the tiny 45 litre tank faster than you would believe.
The WLTP figure is about right. Also, even when running it as a Toyota-esq “self-charging” hybrid, high 30s mpg is still achievable at 70mph.
I don’t know, as the aircon is always in Auto mode @ 20 degC.
It will cause a drop in the estimated range though, as it consumes energy.
A regular round-trip I do several times a week incorporates a 5 mile section of M4 (J36-J37 – if you know it, you’ll know there are two big hills involved). The total round trip is 24 miles, including sections of road with 50, 40 and 30 limits.
Driving at 70MPH on the motorway (on electric), I can do the entire round trip and still arrive back home with an indicated 6 miles electric range.
So I make that a realistic range of 24+6 miles=30 miles which includes, as I say, 10 miles @ 70MPH on the M4.
When I jumped in the car this morning, after an overnight charge, it was indicating 42 miles electric range – that obviously was not achieved due to the motorway driving, but I have every confidence that if I were to pootle around at 25/30MPH, I’d get close to 40 miles range.
Oh, and the air con and radio were on the whole time 🙂
Agree – we’ve had ours 1 month today. Have only covered 230 miles, but all on electric and have added about 50kW, costing £7.50. Still waiting to get a smart meter installed so that we can get a cheap night rate. Once I do, the 50kWh will cost £2.50.
Very pleased as I was concerned it might not make a regular 22 mile round-trip including 10 miles on motorway on electric only – but it does (even at 70mph) and with c. 8 miles capacity remaining.
However, don’t forget that although a relatively small area geographically, the UK is outside of Europe and there will still be a market for compact, right-hand-drive cars. The same cars that can be driven in Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Africa and so on. None of which are in Europe either.
It is interesting and the rumour is that an announcement related to the Outlander PHEV will be forthcoming this autumn. Is it conceivable that the UK importer, Colt Car Company, will do exactly as you suggest?August 2, 2020 at 12:09 pm in reply to: Premium, mid-range or budget, which tyres are best? #121046
My Golf was fitted with Hankook from the factory…. not very good in my opinion – noisy and lacking grip in damp conditions. First change was to a pair of Bridgestones on the front – mildly better. Second change was a full set – lucky me, Kwik Fit only had Michelin Primacy in stock… what a difference all around.
Unfortunately because of lock down, I only did 3k miles on them – the new owner will get the benefit.
No I have an Outlander. My experience is with Bridgend going back many years – the Cardiff branch is relatively new.
Yep – 30 minutes by speed boat.
Seriously though – they’re good people. One of the biggest MG dealers in the UK as I understand it.
Nathaniel MG in Bridgend are offering £200 cash back until Sept 31st
MOTABILITY DEAL ENDING SEPTEMBER 31ST 2020
For Motability customers, call 01656 662277 for Bridgend, 02920 020225 for Cardiff or email email@example.com for the MG ZS Electric Exclusive model – £999 Advanced Payment with a FREE Home Charge Point & £200 Cashback deal.”
Some EVs/PHEVs already don’t have a gear box with choice of ratios (and I don’t mean CVT): the motors just drive the wheels via fixed ratio gears.July 2, 2020 at 7:57 pm in reply to: The Question of VAT relief for Disabled and Vehicles #117497
if this is correct then how do motability manage to get their cars for lease vat free when their customers are not all in wheelchairs ,
As I understand it: all car leasing companies will recover the VAT on new vehicles they purchase. The difference with motability is that their income comes in the form of government grant (DLA/PIP/etc payments). A typical car leasing company would invoice its customers for the lease + VAT. Clearly there is an HMRC exemption in force for motability which is effectively to our advantage.
3 years ago, the AP on my Golf 7.5 2.0TDI GT DSG Estate was £1249
I would suggest that they were wrong to say that the metallic paint wasn’t covered. It is a factory option that is included on the order form.
Yes that would be a good idea.
I agree insurance is an ambiguous business. I once swapped the alloy wheels on my (privately owned) Freelander 2 and being the good boy that I am I duly notified my insurance company….who didn’t even want to record the change on my record.
Looks like this will be my last car on the scheme. MY car, OTRP £19,500 less VAT (£3,250) = £16,250. AP £3,000 + 3yrs PIP roughly £9,500 + £12,500. When Motability come to sell it in 3 years time I’m sure they will get more than £3,750 for the top of the range with extras. Just how much are they actually doing for the disabled and not just the shareholders?
The question is; can you lease, insure and maintain the same vehicle on the same terms for the same money?
Motability allow adding and paying for factory options without requiring their explicit consent. Implicitly, therefore, they are approved.
I agree – given that Motability give us free reign to add extras at the time of purchase then implicitly they are giving their consent, and therefore should be covered.
I could get a decent car just for the advance payment on the Outlander that would last 3 years and probably be able to sell it
Sure, but you still have to keep in perspective that buying an Outlander PHEV on PCP would require a circa £5k deposit and monthly payments of circa £500.
Clearly if you buy a s/h car for £4k today, chances are that if it needs nothing more than routine servicing, you’ll be able to sell it on for perhaps a couple of grand. But you won’t buy a s/h Outlander PHEV for £4k – not even one of the early ones.
It’s perhaps worth noting that the Outlander PHEV was that sort of money up until Q4 2019. It then dropped significantly to £1699, presumably because it is due to be replaced. What is a surprise is that the AP has returned to its previous level.
Wow, Mitsubishi’s prices are up:
Looks like myself and Oscarmax did well bagging the PHEV at £1699.
Given the market positioning of the 208 and DS3, I’m not really surprised.
Yes, I was very impressed on the test drive. I had it for a day and covered about 150 miles.
I will finally get to pick up my phev on Friday… hard to believe we went into lockdown a few weeks after I ordered it.