VW GOLF< T ROC & TIGUAN COMING OFF SCHEME

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  • #159061
    Newfie
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      Newsflash from VW

      Update 19 July: Golf (petrol and diesel models), T-Roc and Tiguan will be removed from the Motability programme for Q3 from close of business on Wednesday 21 July.

      Any orders have to be completed by the close of day tomorrow (21/7/21)

      This is down to the Semi Conductor shortage.

       

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    • #159162
      Tim

        Does ordering via Mobility really delay new car builds over private orders

        Yes. There’re various examples on this forum of dealers taking a Motability order and not submitting it to the factory, they may have build slots available to them but they take a Motability sale for granted, assuming that once you’ve ordered you’ll likely wait regardless. So with that in mind some unscrupulous dealerships will secure further orders with this build slots to private buyers who might be seen as more demanding over timeframes.

        You’ll be none the wiser until 6 months have gone by and it turns out the order hasn’t been submitted to a build allocation spot, or it was, only months after the dealer inferred it would be.

        #159163
        Tim

          Continuing from the above…

          Dealers often delay Motability orders anyway, so if VW knew the true extent of the demand vs what dealers had on their books and had not yet submitted.. the problem would likely be far more dire than it is.

          VW don’t know how much of an issue this really is.

          #159164
          Belfast4

            At present the airports all over the world are all starting to open up again. And what do you find at airports besides planes, hire cars the hire companies are looking for thousands of new cars but they can’t get them because of the shortage of cars. Lease company’s can not get new cars either it is not just motability. 2 massive car buying and selling companies in mainland UK are buying all the second hand cars and pushing prices through the roof, no one is being discriminated against everyone is in the same boat.

            #159166
            Glos Guy
            Participant

              I wonder how many Motability customers will breathe a sigh of relief (when these cars are removed) that they have already placed their order, only to find that the dealer had taken the ‘order’ without a build allocation slot? I would hope that VW (and Motability) would allow the order to progress (assuming that the customer still wants the car and is prepared to wait a very long time).

              #159168
              Glos Guy
              Participant

                Further to my post above, I would strongly advise anyone who has ordered one of these cars but has yet to receive a VW order tracker number (which works on the VW website and confirms that the order has definitely been placed) calls their VW dealer tomorrow morning. By this time tomorrow it may be too late. I’d also probably do the same if I’d ordered a car from any other manufacturers in the VW stable (Seat, Skoda etc) as I suppose that there’s a risk that they may follow suit.

                #159181
                Greg Richards

                  Wow I’m sorry for all the people who are not going to get their cars anytime soon. It must be costing the manufacturers millions in lost sales.

                  #159190
                  fwippers
                  Participant

                    And reputaional damage. Many will choose other manufacturers.

                    #159211
                    ChrisK
                    Participant

                      Hi fwippers

                      Well yes and no?

                      I’ve started yet another search for a suitable car for my needs and the Peugeot 5008 has hit the number one spot but after an hour or so checking this and that I noticed that Motability only do the 1.5 diesel engine and it’s performance for such a big car carry heavy loads is lacking to say the lest but the rest of the car is excellent.

                      So with the lack of cars with big, big boots it brings me back to the WAG manufacturer and now returned to what was my third choice after the SWB Tiguan, LWB Tiguan then the Seat Tarraco so still in the VW group with little else to chose from outside of it. Having to do my test drives on paper is not easy so sort of rules out many possible car substitutes because I’ve just not go the energy to go around dealers sitting in cars and doing nothing more than twiddle switches so better the Devil I know.

                      My plan of actions now, and its not something I like to do but when you back a Rat into a corner expect trouble, I’m going to extend my lease next week then in a month or so time or whenever its not important I’m going to order a Tarraco Xcellence to get in the waiting line and fix a AP price, then when Q4 prices are release I will check out AP price and whether the Tiguan variants have returned and if not the Tarraco goes forward but if the Tigger returns with no price rises (unlikely) I cancel the Tarraco.

                      I hate to have to cancel again just like 2018 cock-up’s but at least my local VW and Seat dealers are the same supplying company so at least they can’t moan to much and to make it easier on them I’m not adding any extras so they will have thousands of customers queuing up to buy the car as they can’t keep up with demand.?

                       

                       

                       

                      #159216
                      Gary

                        Can I change my mind after I have made a car application? | Motability Scheme

                        You can cancel, and while its not usual, the dealer is entitled to charge a cancellation fee.

                        I know everyone says they cant and wont etc, but they could, and you would be liable.

                        #159217
                        ChrisK
                        Participant

                          I hate to have to cancel again just like 2018 cock-up’s but at least my local VW and Seat dealers are the same supplying company so at least they can’t moan to much and to make it easier on them I’m not adding any extras so they will have thousands of customers queuing up to buy the car as they can’t keep up with demand.?

                          Hark at I worrying about upsetting the VW manufactures and dealers.

                          I’m such a nice guy really.??

                           

                           

                           

                           

                          #159220
                          ChrisK
                          Participant

                            Can I change my mind after I have made a car application? | Motability Scheme You can cancel, and while its not usual, the dealer is entitled to charge a cancellation fee. I know everyone says they cant and wont etc, but they could, and you would be liable.

                            I did do a £500 deposit on my 2018 order and they were a bit hesitant about returning it to me but a call to the dealer from Motability soon had my deposit returned.

                            #159221
                            Tim

                              Just don’t pay them a deposit.

                              #159227
                              ChrisK
                              Participant

                                @ Gary

                                That Motability information seems to be for terminating your lease not for ordering a car and AFAIK there is no agreement until the PIN for your next lease is entered at the dealers on pick up day.

                                Just to make it clear I’ve no intension of ending my lease.

                                @Tim

                                Yes your right, no deposit this time and if they don’t like it I’m out of there on my scooter as opposed to “walking away”.?

                                #159243
                                Gary

                                  nope, its definitely for cancelling an order, not a lease, which is motability that charges you a fee, not the dealer.

                                  Even if you dont pay a deposit, they are within their rights to charge a cancellation fee.

                                  As I said, almost all wont (I didnt, and I paid a deposit for the extras) but its possible.

                                  #159246
                                  Tharg
                                  Participant

                                    Was asked to pay a £500 deposit by VW dealer. Said I wasn’t too keen on the idea since Motability were buying the car not me. The agreed to waive the fee. Did not fancy all the hassle of trying to get it back if they failed to deliver, extending delivery etc. and I chose to go elsewhere.

                                    #159255
                                    Tim

                                      You’d be surprised at how quickly they’ll back down when you say no ?

                                      #159260
                                      Rene

                                        Well, that sucks.

                                        Though the wording “for Q3” gives me a little hope that they gonna return, hopefully by the time we get to order (which is basically 28th of March, so either end of Q1 or beginning of Q2 next year, depending on what the scheme offers).

                                        #159261
                                        Avatar photostruth
                                        Participant

                                          with all the cars leaving scheme, there are precious left for me from my list tbh.. i might well have to forget about a car for current time.

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                                          Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoist

                                          #159275
                                          Newfie
                                          Participant

                                            Now this is only a rumour but there is talk Skoda are removing vehicles tonight also.

                                            If they do that might mean Seat will follow.

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                                            #159281
                                            Avatar photostruth
                                            Participant

                                              skoda have removed the karoq

                                              Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
                                              Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoist

                                              #159282
                                              Newfie
                                              Participant

                                                Was the Karoq on at the start of Q3? I didn’t think it was.

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                                                #159288
                                                fwippers
                                                Participant

                                                  Will this affect VAG cars on Motability going forward?

                                                  #159290
                                                  Newfie
                                                  Participant

                                                    If it does not I am sure people will lose all credibility in them as being unreliable. So might affect future orders through Motability.

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                                                    #159299
                                                    fwippers
                                                    Participant

                                                      Agreed.

                                                      #159306
                                                      FlyingScotsman
                                                      Participant

                                                        Its funny how short our memories are. After the whole VW dieselgate fiasco, I’m still shortlisting 3 VAG cars in the Terraco, Skoda Superb hatch and Passat est. I’m obviously either a gluton for punishment or maybe its a reflection of what large non van style cars are available on motability.

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