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- July 20, 2021 at 9:13 am#159061
Newsflash from VW
Update 19 July: Golf (petrol and diesel models), T-Roc and Tiguan will be removed from the Motability programme for Q3 from close of business on Wednesday 21 July.
Any orders have to be completed by the close of day tomorrow (21/7/21)
This is down to the Semi Conductor shortage.
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- July 20, 2021 at 7:29 pm #159162
TimDoes ordering via Mobility really delay new car builds over private orders
Yes. There’re various examples on this forum of dealers taking a Motability order and not submitting it to the factory, they may have build slots available to them but they take a Motability sale for granted, assuming that once you’ve ordered you’ll likely wait regardless. So with that in mind some unscrupulous dealerships will secure further orders with this build slots to private buyers who might be seen as more demanding over timeframes.
You’ll be none the wiser until 6 months have gone by and it turns out the order hasn’t been submitted to a build allocation spot, or it was, only months after the dealer inferred it would be.
July 20, 2021 at 7:34 pm #159163
TimContinuing from the above…
Dealers often delay Motability orders anyway, so if VW knew the true extent of the demand vs what dealers had on their books and had not yet submitted.. the problem would likely be far more dire than it is.
VW don’t know how much of an issue this really is.
July 20, 2021 at 7:56 pm #159164
Belfast4At present the airports all over the world are all starting to open up again. And what do you find at airports besides planes, hire cars the hire companies are looking for thousands of new cars but they can’t get them because of the shortage of cars. Lease company’s can not get new cars either it is not just motability. 2 massive car buying and selling companies in mainland UK are buying all the second hand cars and pushing prices through the roof, no one is being discriminated against everyone is in the same boat.
July 20, 2021 at 8:11 pm #159166I wonder how many Motability customers will breathe a sigh of relief (when these cars are removed) that they have already placed their order, only to find that the dealer had taken the ‘order’ without a build allocation slot? I would hope that VW (and Motability) would allow the order to progress (assuming that the customer still wants the car and is prepared to wait a very long time).
July 20, 2021 at 8:35 pm #159168Further to my post above, I would strongly advise anyone who has ordered one of these cars but has yet to receive a VW order tracker number (which works on the VW website and confirms that the order has definitely been placed) calls their VW dealer tomorrow morning. By this time tomorrow it may be too late. I’d also probably do the same if I’d ordered a car from any other manufacturers in the VW stable (Seat, Skoda etc) as I suppose that there’s a risk that they may follow suit.
July 21, 2021 at 6:35 am #159181
Greg RichardsWow I’m sorry for all the people who are not going to get their cars anytime soon. It must be costing the manufacturers millions in lost sales.
July 21, 2021 at 8:05 am #159190And reputaional damage. Many will choose other manufacturers.
July 21, 2021 at 10:13 am #159211Hi fwippers
Well yes and no?
I’ve started yet another search for a suitable car for my needs and the Peugeot 5008 has hit the number one spot but after an hour or so checking this and that I noticed that Motability only do the 1.5 diesel engine and it’s performance for such a big car carry heavy loads is lacking to say the lest but the rest of the car is excellent.
So with the lack of cars with big, big boots it brings me back to the WAG manufacturer and now returned to what was my third choice after the SWB Tiguan, LWB Tiguan then the Seat Tarraco so still in the VW group with little else to chose from outside of it. Having to do my test drives on paper is not easy so sort of rules out many possible car substitutes because I’ve just not go the energy to go around dealers sitting in cars and doing nothing more than twiddle switches so better the Devil I know.
My plan of actions now, and its not something I like to do but when you back a Rat into a corner expect trouble, I’m going to extend my lease next week then in a month or so time or whenever its not important I’m going to order a Tarraco Xcellence to get in the waiting line and fix a AP price, then when Q4 prices are release I will check out AP price and whether the Tiguan variants have returned and if not the Tarraco goes forward but if the Tigger returns with no price rises (unlikely) I cancel the Tarraco.
I hate to have to cancel again just like 2018 cock-up’s but at least my local VW and Seat dealers are the same supplying company so at least they can’t moan to much and to make it easier on them I’m not adding any extras so they will have thousands of customers queuing up to buy the car as they can’t keep up with demand.?
July 21, 2021 at 10:35 am #159216
GaryCan I change my mind after I have made a car application? | Motability Scheme
You can cancel, and while its not usual, the dealer is entitled to charge a cancellation fee.
I know everyone says they cant and wont etc, but they could, and you would be liable.
July 21, 2021 at 10:35 am #159217I hate to have to cancel again just like 2018 cock-up’s but at least my local VW and Seat dealers are the same supplying company so at least they can’t moan to much and to make it easier on them I’m not adding any extras so they will have thousands of customers queuing up to buy the car as they can’t keep up with demand.
Hark at I worrying about upsetting the VW manufactures and dealers.
I’m such a nice guy really.??
July 21, 2021 at 10:41 am #159220Can I change my mind after I have made a car application? | Motability Scheme You can cancel, and while its not usual, the dealer is entitled to charge a cancellation fee. I know everyone says they cant and wont etc, but they could, and you would be liable.
I did do a £500 deposit on my 2018 order and they were a bit hesitant about returning it to me but a call to the dealer from Motability soon had my deposit returned.
July 21, 2021 at 10:43 am #159221
TimJust don’t pay them a deposit.
July 21, 2021 at 10:51 am #159227@ Gary
That Motability information seems to be for terminating your lease not for ordering a car and AFAIK there is no agreement until the PIN for your next lease is entered at the dealers on pick up day.
Just to make it clear I’ve no intension of ending my lease.
@Tim
Yes your right, no deposit this time and if they don’t like it I’m out of there on my scooter as opposed to “walking away”.?
July 21, 2021 at 11:23 am #159243
Garynope, its definitely for cancelling an order, not a lease, which is motability that charges you a fee, not the dealer.
Even if you dont pay a deposit, they are within their rights to charge a cancellation fee.
As I said, almost all wont (I didnt, and I paid a deposit for the extras) but its possible.
July 21, 2021 at 11:36 am #159246Was asked to pay a £500 deposit by VW dealer. Said I wasn’t too keen on the idea since Motability were buying the car not me. The agreed to waive the fee. Did not fancy all the hassle of trying to get it back if they failed to deliver, extending delivery etc. and I chose to go elsewhere.
July 21, 2021 at 12:27 pm #159255
TimYou’d be surprised at how quickly they’ll back down when you say no ?
July 21, 2021 at 1:09 pm #159260
ReneWell, that sucks.
Though the wording “for Q3” gives me a little hope that they gonna return, hopefully by the time we get to order (which is basically 28th of March, so either end of Q1 or beginning of Q2 next year, depending on what the scheme offers).
July 21, 2021 at 1:17 pm #159261with all the cars leaving scheme, there are precious left for me from my list tbh.. i might well have to forget about a car for current time.
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistJuly 21, 2021 at 2:46 pm #159275Now this is only a rumour but there is talk Skoda are removing vehicles tonight also.
If they do that might mean Seat will follow.
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On order Skoda Enyaq 85X Sportline PlusJuly 21, 2021 at 3:07 pm #159281skoda have removed the karoq
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistJuly 21, 2021 at 3:10 pm #159282Was the Karoq on at the start of Q3? I didn’t think it was.
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On order Skoda Enyaq 85X Sportline PlusJuly 21, 2021 at 3:27 pm #159288Will this affect VAG cars on Motability going forward?
July 21, 2021 at 3:30 pm #159290If it does not I am sure people will lose all credibility in them as being unreliable. So might affect future orders through Motability.
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On order Skoda Enyaq 85X Sportline PlusJuly 21, 2021 at 4:42 pm #159299Agreed.
July 21, 2021 at 5:17 pm #159306Its funny how short our memories are. After the whole VW dieselgate fiasco, I’m still shortlisting 3 VAG cars in the Terraco, Skoda Superb hatch and Passat est. I’m obviously either a gluton for punishment or maybe its a reflection of what large non van style cars are available on motability.
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