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- July 20, 2021 at 9:13 am#159061
Newsflash from VW
Update 19 July: Golf (petrol and diesel models), T-Roc and Tiguan will be removed from the Motability programme for Q3 from close of business on Wednesday 21 July.
Any orders have to be completed by the close of day tomorrow (21/7/21)
This is down to the Semi Conductor shortage.
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- July 20, 2021 at 10:33 am #159080
TimWow! It’s a shame that Motability doesn’t have the gravitas to keep manufacturers on the scheme vs private sales.
July 20, 2021 at 10:38 am #159081With lead times currently 8 months plus I guess it stops the complaints.
The only Golf on the scheme will be the plug in hybrid.
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On order Skoda Enyaq 85X Sportline PlusJuly 20, 2021 at 10:42 am #159082
GeorgieMy brother ordered a Golf (Motab) on April 1st and the Build Date just keeps getting extended further and further. Originally told “Mid-June”, then “End of June”, then “Sometime in July”. I think it’s currently “September, possibly” – but he’s not holding his breath. It might make a nice Christmas Present.
July 20, 2021 at 10:48 am #159083In my mind it’s nothing less than disability discrimination because if I was a private buyer I bet I could go and order any VW at anytime but because VW are short of parts the attitude is of VW is to ease waiting times for private buyer by discriminating against disabled customers…
…that is, unless that disabled person is lucky to have the finances to buy their own car.
We know there’s long waiting times but what is the Motability problem with that, maybe because they won’t be able to handle all the calls from customers who are being discriminated against by abled body queue jumpers.
July 20, 2021 at 11:10 am #159088
PaulWith what vehicles are available prices will rise again,less choice for us and manufacturers know some desperate for vehicles so will pay it.As above private buyers come first
July 20, 2021 at 11:25 am #159093But always bear in mind the increase in residual values of cars going back to Motability. Webuyanycar.com are offering £1000 more for my BMW X1 than they were 9 months ago. Motability are going to be awash with cash. Will we see the benefit of it?
July 20, 2021 at 11:30 am #159096
brydoIf one of these cars where on my list but I wasn’t able to change until Q4 or Q1 of next year I would be on the phone to motability today asking them to let me order today/tomorrow.
In these extraordinary times they should make allowances for circumstances like this.
July 20, 2021 at 11:36 am #159097
kbfernI recently cancelled my new Tiguan 1.5 dsg elegance (ordered end Mar) due to cock up by VW it seems that I was not going to get the car as originally ordered and anytime soooooon. Now it all becomes clear.
July 20, 2021 at 11:43 am #159099
GeorgieThe other Question is – Will other manufacturers follow VW’s lead? They must all be in the same boat supply-wise, and all have the same desire to maximise potential profits from what stock they have.
July 20, 2021 at 12:28 pm #159103Ordered T-ROC at beginning of June. Told delivery early-ish Sept.Build-date now first week October. Expect it’ll go back further. Ho humm. At least I got it as the ridiculously low AP.
July 20, 2021 at 12:54 pm #159117
Ian PriceWith the siutaion likely to get worse before it gets better. I wonder how we stand having extended to 5 years and there is no suitable car to order because of this. Will they insist the car is returned. Under these current circumstances I think we should be allowed to continue with say a 6 month extension until this issue is resolved. I suppose I could order anything and keep the car until ready. Then cancel and order again. Thereby extending the time I keep the car. Not really fair doing this I know but what choice do we have when we can not order the car we require.
July 20, 2021 at 1:56 pm #159122
PaulExactly what im thinking too Ian.You would think motorbility are aware of these things and manage to solve or make least bettet by extending the choices available,with negotiations. I do expect motorbilty to allow around another 6 months rather than force changes as the cancellation way just causes more issues for everyone
July 20, 2021 at 1:58 pm #159124Ordered a Golf GTD early may was told September delivery now put back to end of November still no build week been given, for what it’s worth my friend ordered a Golf GTI mid June he already has a build week and looking at September delivery, private buyer
July 20, 2021 at 2:05 pm #159126
GeorgieIf we’ve ordered a new car ‘at the right time’ according to the Motability rules, but the build and delivery are delayed and delayed, do we still have to pay the 5p a mile excess if we go over 60,000 miles? Or e.g. do they note the mileage on the final Service and, if it’s under 60,000 miles, we’re okay to carry on driving it without penalty?
I’ve looked at the Motability website but couldn’t find anything about this.
July 20, 2021 at 2:21 pm #159128
RichardwIt’s already happened with other manufactures. Peugeot are not taking any fleet orders until next year in an attempt to meet the demand of private customers. Our motability guy told us this last week.
July 20, 2021 at 2:31 pm #159129In my mind it’s nothing less than disability discrimination because if I was a private buyer I bet I could go and order any VW at anytime but because VW are short of parts the attitude is of VW is to ease waiting times for private buyer by discriminating against disabled customers… …that is, unless that disabled person is lucky to have the finances to buy their own car. We know there’s long waiting times but what is the Motability problem with that, maybe because they won’t be able to handle all the calls from customers who are being discriminated against by abled body queue jumpers.
I don’t think it would be classed as discrimination against disabled. The manufacturers sell to motability and motability lease to a disabled person. Basically the manufacturer is selling to a large lease company who probably get a sizable discount.
I would like to see if other lease company are still getting their cars.
July 20, 2021 at 2:52 pm #159130Thus is upsetting news for those desirous of a VW but sadly I feel we could see replicated in the future from other manufacturers. This would be of particular concern to those approaching the end of an extended lease. We will know in a couple of days if this rumour is true.
July 20, 2021 at 2:59 pm #159131In my mind it’s nothing less than disability discrimination because if I was a private buyer I bet I could go and order any VW at anytime but because VW are short of parts the attitude is of VW is to ease waiting times for private buyer by discriminating against disabled customers… …that is, unless that disabled person is lucky to have the finances to buy their own car. We know there’s long waiting times but what is the Motability problem with that, maybe because they won’t be able to handle all the calls from customers who are being discriminated against by abled body queue jumpers.
I don’t think it would be classed as discrimination against disabled. The manufacturers sell to motability and motability lease to a disabled person. Basically the manufacturer is selling to a large lease company who probably get a sizable discount. I would like to see if other lease company are still getting their cars.
As noted above private buyers are still getting delivery, be it late, but delivered all the same but we’re just being stopped full stop and yes you’re probably right it won’t go down as discrimination but like the under cover discrimination of black folk for the past two centuries, discrimination all the same.
I had my renewal noticed this morning but I’m sick to the back teeth of searching for suitable cars only to find when the times come it’s gone and after starting a new search again this morning I’ve decided to extend because I can’t be bothered anymore, I give up, you win, goodbye.?
July 20, 2021 at 3:07 pm #159132I’m afraid its no rumour. It comes from a directive sent to VW dealers from Motability.
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On order Skoda Enyaq 85X Sportline PlusJuly 20, 2021 at 3:25 pm #159136
RichardwIt’s not just motability, it is all large group/fleet buyers. Nothing to do with discrimination against disabled people.
July 20, 2021 at 3:29 pm #159137
TimAh context, it matters. Thank you.
July 20, 2021 at 4:24 pm #159143And, in relation to over 60,000 mileage, they apply a pro-rata rate, so you don’t lose out, but you also don’t have free reign to go bonkers with miles.
I had gone over the allowance by over 10% & my new car delivery was delayed 3 months, no cost to me.
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July 20, 2021 at 4:43 pm #159144
GeorgieThanks, Abercol. I’m just asking on behalf of my brother. I’ve yet to return a car with more than 10k on the clock. 🙂
July 20, 2021 at 6:43 pm #159155Does ordering via Mobility really delay new car builds over private orders.
As surely once the dealer take the order and puts it through to the factory for building, it just becomes an order for a new car.
Would the factory really know its mobilty and delay the order.
July 20, 2021 at 7:19 pm #159160
GaryMate went to order a golf on the weekend and was told to expect to wait 26 weeks which seems long. He is a private buyer.
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