To all the disabled, especially in England, be careful who you vote for.

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  • #97967 Reply

    brydo

    The result of this general election will almost certainly be decided in England and, unfortunately ,it looks like the Tories will win a working majority. It is likely there will be a smattering of Tory seats won in Scotland and wales and of course they don’t stand in northern island. So we will be facing a Tory government with no mandate in three of the four countries in these disunited of kingdoms.

    So the plight of this nation is in the hands of the English people and I would ask the members on this forum, disabled or not, to consider whether or not a vote for the Conservative party is in our, your and the many best interest.

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    Mike 700
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    Brydo,

    for the sake of all citizens of the U.K. this particular Corbyn/ Militant Tendency  gang must be defeated – this is not the Labour Party of previous governments and mustn’t  be allowed anywhere near Downing Street, whether as one party, or in coalition, partnership, or by special arrangement ‘this time’!

    The LibDems are neither liberal or democratic, and can’t  form a government, this leaves (perhaps the lesser of several evils ) the Conservative Party.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by  Mike 700.
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    Wigwam
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    Notable that alongside all the magnificent giveaways promised by labour there is no mention of doing away with the benefit freeze.

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    Mike 700
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    The result of this general election will almost certainly be decided in England and, unfortunately ,it looks like the Tories will win a working majority. It is likely there will be a smattering of Tory seats won in Scotland and wales and of course they don’t stand in northern island. So we will be facing a Tory government with no mandate in three of the four countries in these disunited of kingdoms. So the plight of this nation is in the hands of the English people and I would ask the members on this forum, disabled or not, to consider whether or not a vote for the Conservative party is in our, your and the many best interest.

     

    Whichever party wins Brydo, they will very much have a mandate to govern, as this is a U.K. General Election, and , just like the Brexit referendum, if you vote, you validate it!

    #97988 Reply

    Stephen

    I would never have believed it growing up in this wonderful country of ours that on day I would have to vote on which lies I believed the least to make my choice of whom to vote for where have all the honest politicians gone 😳

    #97997 Reply

    bfoandc

    It is the Conservatives who have been taken over by an extreme group. The fact is that the old One Nation Conservatives are no more and what we have is a a party of the very well off and which has no concern for the bulk of the people.

    If they don’t have the support of the people of Scotland it won’t bother them as long as they have the majority they need. It could be argued that it is England which is ‘leaving’ the give and take of a United Kingdom.

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    Wigwam
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    I see no evidence of that. Johnson is very much the liberal and the rest are focussed on Brexit. Where are these extremists policies?

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    fwippers
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    In consideration of ones vote, a number of factors need to explored. Only then can a vote truly be cast with a conscience which displays the same properties as a glass of water taken straight from a Norwegian fjord on a warm summers afternoon.

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    mitch
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    sorry brydo, its a case of the only thing i trust in corbyn is that he will bankrupt the country. the nationalisation plans wont work we will be back to the days of the unions running the country.

    dont even get me started on antisemitism and momentum.

    my postal vote went in yesterday and it wasnt for comrade corbyn.

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    Menorca Mike
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    Mine wasn’t Mitch

    BBC Breakfast expert, VW Golf driver.

    #98042 Reply

    Brydo
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    Unfortunately BJ failed to show last night, if you choose to vote for a a guy who doesn’t offer himself up for scrutiny you can’t complain when it all  goes wrong.

    I am encouraging people to not vote Tory, not necessarily to vote labour, just to be clear.

    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe

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    Menorca Mike
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    Yes Brydo I totally understand a dear friend told me this week Boris smiles at you but at the same time he is pissing down your leg ! I think that sums it up perfectly

    BBC Breakfast expert, VW Golf driver.

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    Mike 700
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    I am encouraging people to not vote Tory, not necessarily to vote labour, just to be clear.

     

    Yes Brydo, people really do need to think about who they vote for, and the only alternative to a Tory Government -which you need to understand is already supported by many, many millions of citizens, including disabled citizens, for example, in 2010 some 10.7 million people voted Conservative, and in 2015 this increased to 11.34 million, finally, even though there was no overall majority,  in Parliament, in 2017 this support for the Conservatives rose to 13.636 million voters, and if the Opinion Polls are to ge believed,  it is likely to be a high amount this time, perhaps as many as 16+ million, so it is clear that not everyone thinks as you do, and it is a fact that many millions of these Tory supporters are Blue Collar workers, not public school Toffs as opponents like to promote – ,is for either a coalition of ultra left wing Militant Tendency anD  an even an even further to the left Nationalist group, which will cause chaos as each member party push their requirements, or a Militant Tendency Labour Government with pie in the sky policies, directed specifically at the vulnerable , the costs of which are impossible to meet without massive tax rises in everyone , including the disabled and pensioners – Cloud Cuckoo land ‘writ large’.

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    #98046 Reply

    fwippers
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    1. Don’t vote for the wrong ones
    #98051 Reply

    brydo

    Mike 700 I respect your right to vote Tory but would you consider yourself your average, Joe public disabled guy? You have just returned from New York and I have lost count of the number of times you have been abroad visiting family. All of which is great but your average person, never mind being disabled, couldn’t afford to do that.

    I am more worried about the poor Mike, I am trying to persuade those who are persuadable to vote against the most right wing government in living memory. A government who’s cabinet is full of “Tory Toffs” who don’t have a clue about what “making ends meet” actually means.

    #98053 Reply

    mitch
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    not while corbyn, momentum and the unions are in charge.

    #98054 Reply

    Wigwam
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    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Brydo, you love making bold statements “most right wing government in living memory” . What is your evidence? Which of the Cons manifesto is extreme right wing? Which of the candidates are extreme right wing?</p>
    If you were to argue that the Labour party was the most extreme left wing in living memory, I think no one would deny it.

    #98059 Reply

    Brydo

    Don`t disagree that the Labour party is on an extreme left wing trajectory.

    #98063 Reply

    Brydo

    The Tory manifesto is a “loss leader” put out to convince the gullible they are a centrist party. Once they have a working majority in parliament the “REAL TORIES” will be revealed. Controlled by the ERG, and the like, the Tories will take us out of the EU with no deal just to prostitute us to the Americans.

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    Wigwam
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    Ah, so it’s just a Brydo conspiracy theory.  Why am I not surprised.

    #98067 Reply

    Brydo
    Participant

    If you say so wigwam

    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe

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    Menorca Mike
    Participant

    Wigwam could you please accept Brydos opinion we all differ in our views and this is what makes a forum such as this interesting to read

    BBC Breakfast expert, VW Golf driver.

    #98071 Reply

    Wigwam
    Participant

    Of course I accept Brydo’s opinion but he didn’t offer an opinion. He said:

    “The Tory manifesto is a “loss leader” put out to convince the gullible they are a centrist party. Once they have a working majority in parliament the “REAL TORIES” will be revealed. Controlled by the ERG, and the like, the Tories will take us out of the EU with no deal just to prostitute us to the Americans.”

    Which is expressed as a statement of fact whereas in my opinion it’s arrant nonsense.

    #98077 Reply

    brydo

    As ever wigwam your opinion is the only one that matters.

    I have been avoiding threads like these because of that and I will once again avoid them.

    #98079 Reply

    POPS
    Moderator

    We all have our views and it’s natural to try and sway others with what we each firmly believe is the right argument.

    Let’s keep our exchanges of opinions friendly and respectful please. You’re all doing a good job of being tolerant, considering how emotive this election is turning out to be.

    Here’s my take on it for what it’s worth (not much I expect lol)

    Johnson and cronies cannot be trusted. No deal and alignment with Trump is their fairly obvious agenda. (It’s not in the manifesto of course).

    Corbyn and  momentum are unelectable, despite having some long needed ideas for the bottom end of society.

    Swinton and her new boys and girls have thrown away any chance by having just one main manifesto idea (remain).

    Farage …. Meh!

    I hope there are some decent independent candidates although they will make no difference.

    Politics is broken.

    Only my thoughts guys and girls and you’re very welcome to disagree with me.

    #98081 Reply

    Winston

    Common Sense Party is the only way forward Pops 🙌🏻

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