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Elliot, nice try. But how did it sound hitting the redline at 7000 rpm? Wait, it couldn’t hit 7000rpm? š
Great attempt at sneaking a diesel in, though.
Elliot when was the 335d on the scheme?
The Bentley is beautiful.
@wmcforum fortunately we seem to have TWO people posting under the name Ā Ā ajn Ā ….
Please could one be amended to avoid confusion, I did report the same incident in the week too, Thanks, ajnš¤£
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@Richard āGTD has GTI suspension, bigger brakes, trick electronic diff. It is a long way removed from the standard Golf setup.ā I read a new review of the GTD infact it could possibly of been a video review and the GTD doesnt have the same setup as the GTI
15mm lower suspension like the GTI, yet another pointer to the fact that it is far from a ‘standard’ Golf setup
The classic Bentley Speed 6 was certainly sporty, but I reckon the r-type Continental beats it for looks…
And, at its launch in early 50s, it was claimed to be the fastest 4-seater in the world. I think that classifies it as “sporty”? By today’s standards it is pretty poor performance-wise: 0-60 in around 13 secs. Interesting, though, is the kerbweight – at 1660kg is is the same weight as todays Mini Countryman. Just shows how much extra stuff gets bunged into cars today
I wouldn’t class the Golf GTD as sporty at all nor any golf 8! The moose test results are frightening. Uncontrollable at 50mph and could only manage 43mph at best. Fast it is yes, but it’s handling isn’t up to standard.
Moreover, from reviews I’ve read, the so-called Limited Slip Differential does not work too well. Had the same combination of engine and ‘box on a front-drive Superb, also not good in the LSD dept.. The front wheels would scrabble out of corners even at low speeds.
To be fair I don’t put a lot of faith in these so called LSD their using now, I had a 3 series BMW with true LSD , now that was great, no electronic LSD is going to work like a true LSD is.
Elliot when was the 335d on the scheme?
It never was, but my reply was to the post that said there was no such thing as a sporty diesel.
@Richy Yup. Know what you mean. That said, the electric one on the Cooper S seems to work OK at stopping the front scrabbling. Many moons ago, I had an XJS. When that beast decided to use the LSD you certainly knew about it – a kick from the rear in no uncertain terms!
I had a Capri 2.8i that also had a lovely rear ended, especially in the wet!!
As for on the scheme, itās certainly not got the choice it did have when I first joined……
Lively not lovely!!!!!! (Sorry) š³
@DaveW Some would say both lively and lovely! š But talking of “sporty” types, the best of these I’ve had was a Nissan 200sx. Only a 2.0L, producing a mild 200bhp. But outrageously quick. Speed quoted as 150mph plus and I know it would do 145mph, comfortablyĀ too. The rear end of the 200 was brilliant. Told you exactly when it was going to break away and could be held in a drift for as long as you like, all under perfect control.
Fastest car currently on the scheme appears to be the Peugeot 3008 Hybrid 300.
300BHP.
0 – 60 – 6.1 seconds.
Top speed: 149mph.
The top speed is irrelevant (never go that speed in anything… let alone a 2,000kg SUV), but that’s an impressive 0-60 time. There’s some vids on Youtube and it has some pull.
As for the car itself, I’ve been on Peugeot forums and have heard many bad things about it. Mainly to do with the electric motor. It should boost your mpg but most people are only getting 5 or 6 miles out of it before the engine kicks in. Kinda defeats the purpose of a Hybrid. One guy said he’s been in and out of the dealership since he got it. Software update after software update. Hybrids are sketchy. Full ICE or full electric for me.
SB – Power and performance figures for PHEVās are a little misleading, as they rely on both the battery and petrol engine both running together which in real world driving isnāt always the case, especially as many drivers try to do local trips on electric only. By contrast, a full EV or ICE will have their full power and performance on tap 100% of the time. They are, by definition, a compromise, as the battery (and range) is small and the petrol engines can be a little unrefined, but they are very popular with company car drivers who benefit from much lower tax yet (apparently) hardly ever plug them in. Their purchase costs rarely make them a viable purchase for private buyers, but thankfully they are keenly priced on Motability and I can definitely see the attraction of them. No range anxiety or need to charge on the go and overall high mpg. As low running costs seems to be the main deciding factor for many Motability drivers, their benefits in that regard canāt be ignored.
I think the thing about company car drivers is a bit of a myth, Glos Guy. This from two years ago:
https://www.alphabet.com/en-gb/auto-digest/plug-hybrid-owners-really-do-plug
I think the thing about company car drivers is a bit of a myth, Glos Guy. This from two years ago: https://www.alphabet.com/en-gb/auto-digest/plug-hybrid-owners-really-do-plug
I agree it seems odd Wigwam, but Iāve seen it mentioned countless times. That article talks about all owners, not just company car drivers, so even though they say that it dispels the myth, their stats donāt! The 32% who donāt charge daily could all be company car drivers š I guess the logic is that company car drivers generally get their fuel paid for but may not get a home charger or their electricity paid for (if indeed they can even charge at home) so financially it may be cheaper to run them solely on petrol (which they donāt pay for) whilst benefiting from the lower company car tax.
Wouldn’t call the 3008 a sporty car. It’s a quick car, but not sporty. A Rolls Royce with 600bhp accelerates fast too, but i wouldn’t call that sporty either.
The sportiest cars (in my opinion) on the scheme currently are the Coopers and probably the GTD/GTE. Maybe the ID3, which apparently even goes sideways if asked nicely.
Also, it’s absolutely nonsense to equate “RPM” with “sporty”. You can rev the balls off of an S2000, that doesn’t mean that cars with a 7000rpm redline aren’t sporty. They don’t lend themselves to racetrack due to the way they deliver power (and having a heavier engine), that doesn’t mean they can’t be sporty. Or even competitive in race use, see Audi R10 TDI.
