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Not all sleek hidden door handles are dangerous electrically operated.
Hyundai’s Ioniq 5 are mechanical opening. True higher specs electronically pop out, but the final opening is entirely mechanical.
You can feel the linkage engaging when opening.
I put an order in for a Mach E last year…and then cancelled it all because i had a good think about the finger tip door handles and how i would open the doors in a howling wind blowing against the door..my arthritic fingers/hand/wrist would not have a hope of opening the car door…and i would never have a car with the hidden door handles.
Any car with the tried and tested full hand grip handles for me.
I can’t think of anything worse than being stuck with a car for three years that I dread getting into each day or one that I’m so glad to get out of at the other end of my journey!
Car manufacturer’s – some of them at least – are finally listening to what buyers want & are changing back to things that worked well in the past and work equally as well nowadays. Take my Renault Clio for example. It’s got proper door handles. I get in – and I’m also glad to see it’s got large rotary dials for all the heating/aircon. Yippee! There is also a proper physical button (thank you so much Renault!) which you press just once… and it stops all of the annoying bings & bongs that would drive me CRAZY having driven just 200 metres down the road! It also has proper physical buttons, one each side of the console, for the heated front seats. I don’t have to press some stupid massive glass screen several times just to warm my butt cheeks!
I’ve been looking at the new Honda Civic hybrid Sport (on the scheme for around £1,400 AP). Read any review on the net and they love it – every reviewer. Fabulous hybrid system, very powerful car, fantastic to drive, very comfortable, all mod cons. Sounds great I thought – will consider it as my next car. And then you read something that every single reviewer writes ; “It’s a real shame then that the Civic is let down by constant annoying warning bongs which require several presses of the screen in order to mute and you have to do this EVERY time you want to drive the car”. Several reviewers said in the end, it was such a faff that they just left it on and tried to ignore the bongs going off constantly in the background as they drove 2 or 3 mph over the speed limit.
Nah, not for me thanks. I value my sanity for starters. Where’s the enjoyment in getting behind the wheel of a car and it nagging you constantly so much so that you’re tempted to drive it all the way to Beachy Head in Sussex & driving it over a cliff – ala Jimmy and his scooter in Quadrophenia!!!
Nah, not for me thanks. I value my sanity for starters. Where’s the enjoyment in getting behind the wheel of a car and it nagging you constantly so much so that you’re tempted to drive it all the way to Beachy Head in Sussex & driving it over a cliff – ala Jimmy and his scooter in Quadrophenia!!!
Never watched Quadrophenia being a rocker back in the day – watched it since matured though😂
Renault nailed it with the Perso button!
Never watched Quadrophenia being a rocker back in the day – watched it since matured though
Renault nailed it with the Perso button!Superb movie with a superb soundtrack… even for a greasy old rocker like you kezo 😉
Top 3 movies of all time:
1. Quadrophenia
2. Saving Private Ryan
3. The Blues BrothersWhen its time to change cars, I road test my shortlist of 6-7 and then take my wife with for the choice on the final 2. This time that was the Ioniq 5 Ultimate and the EV6 GT Line, both with flush handles.
Wife was not amused by the EV6. She’s virtually blind, so she couldn’t find the manual opening flush handles – let alone the faf of operating them one handed.
She didn’t see the point in paying for the extra tech pack on the Ioniq 5, until she learned it was the only way (at that time) to get electric pop out handles – which she needed to find and open the door. Hyundai changed the spec on the Ultimate and now include pop out handles on the base Ultimate, no packs needed.
Its a worrying trend, started by the likes of Tesla on its Model S in 2012, its not for aerodynamics, more for the look of the car.
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Not all sleek hidden door handles are dangerous electrically operated. Hyundai’s Ioniq 5 are mechanical opening. True higher specs electronically pop out, but the final opening is entirely mechanical. You can feel the linkage engaging when opening.
The main issue, the one that led to multiple deaths (including that recent Nio crash), isn’t that the door didn’t unlock due to electric locks or something.
It’s, like for the Tesla Cybergarbage, the fact that the door handles aren’t accessible. Doesn’t matter whether or not they mechanically operate a lock – the issue is/was that the door handles are recessed in a way that makes them inaccessible if the power goes out. Same for the Nio.
So, in a crash, you simply couldn’t even get to the door handle. Again, as has happened in a relatively recent Cybertruck crash, with three teenagers perished despite first responders reaching the car basically immediately (friends were driving behind). They asphyxiated (while unconscious from the crash), while the first responders weren’t able to open the doors, and also had trouble getting through the double glazed windows (they managed eventually, with a tree branch, iirc).
Add to that the absolute asinine placement for emergency releases (front passengers often use it accidentally and break the frameless window because they don’t retract when the emergency release is pulled, the rear passenger release is somewhere hidden under some random arse rubber mat somewhere, though not of consequence in this crash since the victims of the Tesla were unconscious anyway).. Yeah.
PS: flush handles very much are for efficiency reasons. You’d be surprised by the impact. That’s also the reason for this incredibly stupid electric side mirror/camera garbage.
It also very much isn’t a new trend, no idea where you got that idea from. Flush door handles exist in mass produced cars since the 70s. For a really good example, check the early 80s Subaru XT Coupe.
Pretty sure what you mean is retracting door handles, and it really isn’t a trend. It’s Teslas and chinese manufacturers, no one else jumped on that bandwagon.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.I believe the BMW ix use flush electric door handles & VW abandoned them last year, with their CEO saying they were a terrible idea.
Europe is already looking into banning them and will ban “Flush” regardless how it is operated.
https://autojosh.com/cars-sold-in-europe-may-soon-ban-flush-door-handles/
China has already banned flush handles.
The ones that bother me most are the ones that have to have power to pop out.
the angled handles like both Hyundai and Kia use can be pressed on one side and pop out at the other, meaning the door opens without the need for power. The likes of the IM 5/6 that has those handles that have a ‘square loop’ you put your hand in and that read the presence of that hand to open the door electronically and also have only a button internally are the ones that need an auto unlocking mechanism in the case of sudden stopping (accident).
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