Shake-up will help UK motorists without driveways to charge EVs

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  • #353933
    belfast4
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      You can do this in N.Ireland at the minute, very small cost of £2,650.00. £600 to dig the trench which if I was fit and able I could do myself for nothing. The stormguard to go across the pavement is £60.00 from eBay or Amazon. It is just a take on to make a lot of money for the installers.

      #353941
      T.O.M.
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        If all drivers were forced to take EVs, would the Power Grid be able to cope with the demand, Mr Milliband?

         

        #353942
        jojo22
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          Alongside the impact that an increase of EVs would have on the grid we also need to keep in mind many many other large grid consumers

          One of those major consumers being Data centres

          The UK data centre market, being the largest in Western Europe with over 520 facilities

          Data centres in the UK currently consume approximately 2% to 2.5% of the nation’s total electricity. With over 400 facilities operational or planned, current operational power demand is around 1 GW, but this is projected to more than double by 2030 due to AI and cloud computing growth, driving significant energy infrastructure challenges.

          A single large “hyperscale” data center, which is increasingly common for AI, can use as much electricity as 350,000 to 400,000 electric cars

          There are an estimated 450 to over 500 active data centres in the UK, making it the largest market in Western Europe. The majority of these are concentrated in the London area, with significant, expanding hubs in Manchester and South Wales. The sector is experiencing high demand, with around 100 new facilities planned

          As of today remembering data centres will increase year on year alongside electric car use.

          Data centers in the UK currently use as much energy as 3 million to 3.8 million electric cars.

          As of early 2026, there are just 1.97 million fully electric cars (Battery Electric Vehicles – BEVs) on UK roads, representing approximately 5.7% of all cars

          My reply and point being is that imo going forward Data centres should be the main focus when we look at Grid demand

           

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          #353948
          MFillingham
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            If all drivers were forced to take EVs, would the Power Grid be able to cope with the demand, Mr Milliband?

            I honestly thought this one had been sufficiently debunked that it had gone away.  Very few EVs are used sufficiently that they’re getting charged daily.  Most are charged between once and twice a week with some being charged even less frequently.  So, at worst case a third of cars would be charging between midnight and 5am.  That’s a time where most commercial users, most offices and residences are drawing minimal power.  It’s just someone making a problem seem like it’s significant when it’s so ridiculously unlikely it’s not worth thinking about.

            I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
            I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

            Mark

            #353952
            shaan200
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              It also doesnt factor in things like V2L or V2H systems either or the fact that some ev owners will have solar panels.

              #353953
              Oscarmax
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                We generate from our solar panel considerably more than we import and that include 1700kWh per year charging up the PHEV, we import off peak and charge the solar batteries or off the solar panels, so we actually help balance the grid.y

                Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                #353957
                kezo
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                  The clue is “Smart Charge”

                  My previous post is still up in the clouds of moderation and explains about the grid

                  #353970
                  MickC
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                    The pic in the newspaper article showing a person holding the cable and plug after it comes out of the gully……..where does that cable and plug go when not connected to a car ?..is it just left on the pavement ?

                    #353973
                    H.K_R
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                      The pic in the newspaper article showing a person holding the cable and plug after it comes out of the gully……..where does that cable and plug go when not connected to a car ?..is it just left on the pavement ?

                      If you’ve got a cable that retracts into a hose reel like thing, or it needs to be manually wound up like the Ohme ones, you can open the top of the gully or just pull the cable out and pop it back with the wall box.

                      #353974
                      H.K_R
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                        If all drivers were forced to take EVs, would the Power Grid be able to cope with the demand, Mr Milliband?

                        I honestly thought this one had been sufficiently debunked that it had gone away. Very few EVs are used sufficiently that they’re getting charged daily. Most are charged between once and twice a week with some being charged even less frequently. So, at worst case a third of cars would be charging between midnight and 5am. That’s a time where most commercial users, most offices and residences are drawing minimal power. It’s just someone making a problem seem like it’s significant when it’s so ridiculously unlikely it’s not worth thinking about.

                        Exactly, you’d have to cover 300 miles a day with most new EVs to justify charging every single night, I’d have to charge mine once a week overnight, but that’s not much different to petrol, and it costs less and can be done whilst you’re asleep.

                        #353975
                        Woodpecker
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                          If all drivers were forced to take EVs, would the Power Grid be able to cope with the demand, Mr Milliband?

                          Irrelevant nonsense.

                          One thing is for sure the Tiddlywinks in Hormuz has sharpened the EU,s focus. They will push for net zero very very quickly. The whole of the bloc is exposed to external players junking the economy.

                          Where the EU goes, the UK will follow.

                          Scotland has surplus renewable energy generating capacity and is transferring that power (EGL4) by undersea cable to Norfolk.

                          #353997
                          Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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                            Am I right in saying the charger can be fitted on a wall that has a mains plug the other side of the wall ie in my front bedroom ? That’s just 3 feet from my car

                            #353999
                            Phaedra
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                              Not a full 7.4kWh charger, not using a 13A socket.  It would have to be connected to either your consumer unit or outside meter/incoming supply connection.

                              You can fit a commando type socket but that limits the charge to around 13A (3kWh).

                              Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                              #354001
                              Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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                                Many thanks my gas electric meter only another 4 feet so that’s ok

                                #353943
                                kezo
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                                  If all drivers were forced to take EVs, would the Power Grid be able to cope with the demand, Mr Milliband?

                                  You may find this interesting

                                  https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero-stories/can-grid-cope-extra-demand-electric-cars

                                  and

                                  https://energy.drax.com/insights/how-the-grid-and-your-organisation-will-cope-with-evs/

                                   

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