Scotland and motability

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  • #368806
    Collie
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      Just saw this posted today on the Motability website.

      “At the moment the changes announced for 1 July 2026 will not be introduced for customers who receive their allowance from Social Security Scotland.”

      The Scottish government seem to drag their heels on most things, let’s hope this is another one of those times. In this case, no decision seems like a good decision for now.

      #368807
      Callmejohn
      Participant

        Sadly, I don’t see them dragging their heel’s for very long on this issue, as soon as it is sorted out in the legal case, they will just claim that it is a Motability implemented decision and not their decision.

        #368808
        jamie1c
        Participant

          Motability email I’ve just received.

          “In March, we announced some changes to the Motability Scheme for customers in the UK from 1 July 2026. We had to do this in response to tax changes introduced by the UK Government in last year’s Autumn Budget.

          These changes include reducing the annual mileage allowance to 10,000 miles per year, increasing the excess mileage fee to 25p per mile, changing tyre replacement limits, and introducing an admin fee if you choose to take your car abroad.

          Because you receive your allowance from Social Security Scotland, these Scheme changes will not apply to you on 1 July 2026. This is because the Scheme operates differently in Scotland, under the Scottish Government’s Accessible Vehicles and Equipment Scheme (AVES).

          I wanted to let you know that we’re continuing discussions with the Scottish Government to agree what changes will be introduced and when they will apply. We’ll contact you again before any agreed changes are introduced, to let you know what to expect and when.

          There is nothing you need to do, and this update does not affect your current lease.

          Thank you for being part of the Motability Scheme.

          Andrew Miller
          Chief Executive Officer, Motability Operations”

          #368809
          Glos Guy
          Participant

            Good news for those who live in Scotland 👍

            Going back to the original post, it’s worth remembering that the changes aren’t because Motability are in need of more money (they clearly aren’t), but it’s a money grab from Rachel Thieves.

            #368810
            jamie1c
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              Good news for those who live in Scotland 👍 Going back to the original post, it’s worth remembering that the changes aren’t because Motability are in need of more money (they clearly aren’t), but it’s a money grab from Rachel Thieves.

               

              I agree with that.

              Having said that, the snp will be looking to claw back some campervan and bog roll money.

              #368811
              DumfriesDik
              Participant

                it’s a money grab from Rachel Thieves.

                Yup, letting the most vulnerable in society down, disgusting.

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                #368813
                Glos Guy
                Participant

                  it’s a money grab from Rachel Thieves.

                  Yup, letting the most vulnerable in society down, disgusting.

                  It feels as though the only political party that doesn’t have the disabled in their sights is the Liberal Democrat party, but Ed Davey has about as much chance of becoming PrimeMinister as I do 😂

                  #368816
                  GreenM
                  Participant

                    Looks like Scottish customers are except from the July changes (for now)

                     

                    I really don’t see how they can have different terms for the rest of the UKEmail

                    #368817
                    Jojoe
                    Participant

                      Agreed, but the way the country is divided they could be in another coalition and with Ed having a disabled son I doubt he would agree to severe cuts to disability benefits.

                      #368873
                      kezo
                      Participant

                        The last Liberal Prime Minister was of course Herbet Asquith (1908-1916) following on  Henry Bannerman death in 1908, after 3 short years as Prime Minister of the Liberal government. Asquith was of course responsible for the old age pension and national insurance contributions and the Liberals then one of the 2 main governments, a long cry from today!

                        I do wonder what antics the then Liberal Prime Ministers got up to back in the day or if they resembled anything remotely like Davey😂

                        #368875
                        Woodpecker
                        Participant

                          Well…the lib dems leaders are good at trying to get a hitman to shoot a male model, who missed and killed his dog instead.

                          #368876
                          jamie1c
                          Participant

                            Well…the lib dems leaders are good at trying to get a hitman to shoot a male model, who missed and killed his dog instead.

                             

                            I had to look that up, I thought it was a joke I was missing 😆

                            #368967
                            Callmejohn
                            Participant

                              The ex PM, David Cameron had a severely disabled son and I don’t remember that helping the disabled much. The Moderator combined this post with jojoe’s post

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                              • This reply was modified 1 month ago by Callmejohn. Reason: The Moderator combined my post with jojoe's. After having several problems with the moderator's, it seems that they were having a bad day
                              #368972
                              Jojoe
                              Participant

                                Ed has always campaigned for carers rights and an increase in carers allowance. Cameron was a very wealthy Tory who never struggled to pay a bill in his life, completely different people.

                                #369753
                                Callmejohn
                                Participant

                                  Ed Davey, is certainly not going to make any difference in Scotland, as we have our own separate Health service and Social Security Department, who run the Health and Social Care show up here and  the Scottish LibDems are no more than a protest party up here.

                                  #369772
                                  Mike
                                  Participant

                                    Looks like Scottish customers are except from the July changes (for now) I really don’t see how they can have different terms for the rest of the UK

                                    Not all customers in Scotland are exempt from the 1st July changes @greenm

                                    The scheme is only remaining the same in Scotland if your benefits are paid by Social Security Scotland, so Scottish DLA, ADP and CDP.

                                    If one is an injured/disabled veteran living in Scotland and in receipt of Armed Forces Independence Payment or War Pension Mobility then the new rules will apply from 1st July.

                                    The reason is that despite me living in Scotland, both AFIP and WPMS remain being paid by the UK-wide government.

                                    So, the new rules will apply to some of  us living in Scotland but not others from 1st July so it will be a two tier scheme on different terms. So much for the Scottish Government stating in their covenant they will make sure veterans are not treated less favourably than anyone else.

                                    #369773
                                    Woodpecker
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                                      @mike

                                      But it is already a 2 tier system.

                                      The wpms and pip/dla/ whatever is a 2 tier system.

                                      Its always been the case and nothing new there.

                                      #369776
                                      Mike
                                      Participant

                                        @mike But it is already a 2 tier system. The wpms and pip/dla/ whatever is a 2 tier system. Its always been the case and nothing new there.


                                        @woodpecker

                                        But currently not two tier as in restricting mileage to 10k per year and charging 25p per mile over that for Scottish veterans.

                                        Okay if you want to be really pedantic, the scheme in Scotland will become a 3 tier scheme wpms, afip and everyone else.

                                        All offering very different terms in Scotland for new leases after 1st July.

                                        They really have made a right Horlicks with this.

                                        #369778
                                        Callmejohn
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                                          @mike But it is already a 2 tier system. The wpms and pip/dla/ whatever is a 2 tier system. Its always been the case and nothing new there.

                                          @woodpecker But currently not two tier as in restricting mileage to 10k per year and charging 25p per mile over that for Scottish veterans. Okay if you want to be really pedantic, the scheme in Scotland will become a 3 tier scheme wpms, afip and everyone else. All offering very different terms in Scotland for new leases after 1st July. They really have made a right Horlicks with this.

                                           


                                          @Woodpecker
                                            It is not currently a two tier system, it is only that wpms were always paid at a higher rate than DLA/PIP/ADP, that is what makes it look as if they were getting Motability cars at a cheaper AP, due to them paying a higher weekly rate.

                                          I also doubt that the Scottish Government will, at the end of the day, agree preferential rates or conditions than the rest of the U.K.

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                                          #369782
                                          Woodpecker
                                          Participant

                                            Indeed, i suggested that waaaaay back in the post.

                                            The terms will be aligned to match the rest of the uk.

                                            It is just one of the drawbacks from being an entirely separate country.

                                            Sometimes it takes time for everything to be matched, laws, etc.

                                             

                                            #370167
                                            jamie1c
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                                              Here’s an email response I received from the Scottish government. It doesn’t really cover anything we didn’t already know.

                                              Our Reference: 202600520799

                                              23 June 2026

                                              Thank you for your email on 2 June 2026 to the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice and Housing regarding the recent changes that have been announced to the Motability Scheme in England, Wales and Northern Ireland by Motability Operations.

                                              As a civil servant working in social security policy I have been asked to provide a response on her behalf.

                                              The Scottish Government is aware that, as a result of the changes announced by the UK Government in its Budget in November 2025, Motability UK has had to adapt its offer for new and renewing lease customers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland from 1 July 2026, who receive a qualifying UK benefit. The 1 July commencement date will not apply in Scotland. The Scottish Government expressed concern at the time about the changes announced by the Chancellor to Value Added Tax (VAT) and Insurance Premium (IP) tax exemptions for the Motability Scheme and the impact these changes could have on Scottish customers. The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice wrote to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions on 6 November 2025 stating that any changes to the scheme were likely to cause fear and uncertainty for disabled people who rely on it and noting her disappointment that the Scottish Government had not been consulted in the run up to the Budget announcement.

                                              In Scotland, the Scottish Government has established its own scheme called the Accessible Vehicles and Equipment Scheme (AVE Scheme). The AVE Scheme ensures that disabled people who receive a qualifying benefit can use their mobility component to lease a vehicle or equipment such as a car, electric vehicle, electric scooter or powered wheelchair. The AVE Scheme gives clients the confidence that an accredited provider under the Scheme will offer a range of vehicles on affordable leasing terms, with a comprehensive package of care and maintenance, with no credit checks. Motability is currently the only active provider under the AVE Scheme and has over 87,000 customers in Scotland. The Scottish Government is working with Motability to understand how any changes might affect customers in Scotland, because the AVE Scheme operates differently. Customers will be notified as soon as possible of any changes.

                                              The Scottish Government remains committed to the AVE Scheme and ensuring that eligible clients get the right vehicle to meet their needs.

                                              Thank you for taking time to contact us about this matter.

                                              Yours sincerely

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                                              #370201
                                              Callmejohn
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                                                It is still a bit confusing, as VAT is mostly the responsibility of the U.K. Government and not the Scottish Government.

                                                Which is possibly why we, in Scotland have not had a definitive answer and the Scottish Government, have written to the U.K. Government, with their dissatisfaction, instead of coming straight out and telling us, in Scotland, that there will simply be no vat added to Motability AP’s, for AVE, SS Scotland customer’s, “end of”, instead of having a continuation of talks about having VAT, or not having VAT, on AP’s for AVE customers, in Scotland.

                                                #373834
                                                jamie1c
                                                Participant

                                                  Update –

                                                  Earlier this year, we announced changes to the Motability Scheme for customers in the UK from 1 July 2026. We had to do this in response to tax changes introduced by the UK Government in last year’s Autumn Budget.

                                                  As you receive your allowance from Social Security Scotland, we contacted you on 10 June 2026 to explain that these changes would not apply to you from 1 July 2026 while discussions with the Scottish Government continued.

                                                  These discussions have now concluded, and we can confirm that the Scheme changes will take effect for customers receiving a Scottish allowance from 1 September 2026. These changes do not affect your current lease.

                                                  Your next lease will be under the new terms and conditions and will include:30,000 miles over a three-year lease, or 50,000 miles over a five-year new Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle (WAV) lease
                                                  25p excess mileage fee, including standard rate VAT
                                                  Up to six tyre replacements over a three-year lease, including up to four for damage during your lease. If you have a five-year WAV lease, you can replace up to 10 tyres, with six included for damage
                                                  A £22 VE103 administration fee to take your car abroad to the EU
                                                  If you think you will exceed your mileage allowance because much of your travel is for healthcare, education or employment, then you may be eligible for our additional mileage support. Visit our website for more information.

                                                  If you’d like to understand more about the Scheme changes, you can read more on our Scheme Change page.

                                                  Thank you for being part of the Motability Scheme.

                                                  Andrew Miller
                                                  Chief Executive Officer, Motability Operations

                                                  #373838
                                                  gazzagaz
                                                  Participant

                                                    Thank you for being part of the Motability Scheme.

                                                     

                                                    Andrew Miller

                                                    Chief Executive Officer, Motability Operations

                                                     

                                                    But if u do more than 10k we would like you to f#*k off. So we make more money

                                                    #373840
                                                    jamie1c
                                                    Participant

                                                      Thank you for being part of the Motability Scheme. Andrew Miller Chief Executive Officer, Motability Operations But if u do more than 10k we would like you to f#*k off. So we make more money

                                                       

                                                      Exactly that.

                                                       

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