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What else do you need? Size? Boot capacity? Tech? Most importantly budget?
There’s a good few available. Does your 250 need to be a winter range? The ranges tend to shrink due to a combination of chemistry and using heaters.
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Been driving my 1st EV (Kia EV6 GT Line AWD) and have been impressed with its range of 260 cold weather to now 280+ miles at the moment. Normal driving and not been too bothered about it as Charge up overnight once a week. Very pleased with the quality of this car.
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2005 - 2017 Honda CRV Exec 2.0d250 in the winter when heater etc on. Boot size not too important – large enough to get a small dog crate in . Usual reversing camera, heated seats etc. Ideally up to £1500 AP. Looked at the Honda, lovely interior but reviews for range don’t look great.
Hyundai and, therefore KIA are awesome at actually achieving the given range. The Kona and Nero can both be had in budget in EV guise. If you can find one with a heat pump included that’ll help the cold weather range. The EV6 is bigger and more expensive, the Ioniq 5 can be had in budget but will be base spec unless you find a really good offer.
Peugeot are now offering the e3008 which has the bigger 73kWh battery and will do all you want.
The Enyaq from Skoda will do all you need but the winter range might be a bit tight, it depends how you drive. You’d definitely need the 85 Edition and you’d get a Great Dane in that boot.
If this is your first Motability car, you’ll be entitled to the £750 new car bonus, which can either be paid directly to the dealership and reduce your input to the advance payment or to your bank.
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Kona. All the tech you need, put it on 17″ wheels and the range is substantial, heat pump as standard, surprisingly accurate range figure, decent sized boot, front boot for cables, comfy, quiet and well built. Charging is a bit slow, 10%-80% is 42 minutes, but 10%-65% is about 25 minutes
Don’t think I’d be looking at the ID4 or Audi E-Tron based on my current Enyaq (same battery and platform).
I was only getting 220 max in the colder months doing mainly local trips under 10 miles each way. As mine is the 85x AWD you may get another 10 or so out of the 2 wheel drive versions. And bear in mind that was charging to 100%, it’s recommended to only charge to 80% so range would be a lot less.
Now it’s warming up (really?) the max range has increased to around 260 so still some way to go to reach the supposed 327 they say it can do!, I’m doing a 100% charge tonight as I have a lot of running about to do tomorrow and Monday and need a decent charge left in it as I have an airport run on Thursday.
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Now that the Rav4 plug-in hybrid is out of our budget, we’ve been persuaded into looking at the Toyota bz4x Motion MY24 which is on the scheme for £695 AP.
I’ve requested for a half day test drive just to see how it is etc. as want to know what sort of real world range it does.
Anyone have/tested a bz4x?
I’m currently with Octopus so could get the intelligent tariff for off peak rates if we decide to go for an EV which I’m still not convinced to go for as don’t know what the real costs are for charging away from home.
It’s a big, comfy car with a lot of room. It’s woefully inefficient though, and has a really haphazard cabin but it is nice. If you wanted an EV and you weren’t ever going far, you could do far worse, but you could also do better
Now that the Rav4 plug-in hybrid is out of our budget, we’ve been persuaded into looking at the Toyota bz4x Motion MY24 which is on the scheme for £695 AP. I’ve requested for a half day test drive just to see how it is etc. as want to know what sort of real world range it does. Anyone have/tested a bz4x? I’m currently with Octopus so could get the intelligent tariff for off peak rates if we decide to go for an EV which I’m still not convinced to go for as don’t know what the real costs are for charging away from home.
We have a Suzuki Across it is a rebadged Toyota RAV4 PHEV but the AP is still very high at £4,999, financially it does not make sense over a 3 year unless you are towing a caravan, the Toyota bzx4x for £695 is a good option, however in reality it has a very poor reported real life range.
To be honest EV are no good only if you want to charge at home as the infrastructure is crap no covers when it is raining, heavy cables for disabled and not wheelchair friendly if you have one for long journeys having to hang around waiting for charging when filling up with petrol or Diesel fuel is done in 5 mins, who wants this I do not and now that car manufacturers are seeing we do not want them the likes of Tesler are now laying off there workforce most have now see the light they are not the future are more toxic that combustion engine cars which are now euro 6-7 and now we have other fuels being thought of and like my Hybrid which can recharge itself and you can fill up within a few mins it is great.
To be honest EV are no good only if you want to charge at home as the infrastructure is crap no covers when it is raining, heavy cables for disabled and not wheelchair friendly if you have one for long journeys having to hang around waiting for charging when filling up with petrol or Diesel fuel is done in 5 mins, who wants this I do not and now that car manufacturers are seeing we do not want them the likes of Tesler are now laying off there workforce most have now see the light they are not the future are more toxic that combustion engine cars which are now euro 6-7 and now we have other fuels being thought of and like my Hybrid which can recharge itself and you can fill up within a few mins it is great.
What!? Have you never queued for petrol? I know I have, many times in fact. At best you’re labelling all public infrastructure with the faults of the worst case, at worst you’re either passing on FUD spread by others with no clue what they’re on about or your just saying stuff with no clue.
Some public chargers can be difficult for wheelchair access, some can have long queues on busy days but in both cases there are solutions. If there are long queues, then there will almost definitely be someone around willing to help a wheelchair user to charge if required. Unless you’re travelling overnight, there’s usually others around and we’re quite a helpful bunch, someone will step up if they see someone struggling.
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Also who wants to use your phone for paying I like to pay good old cash or my card and also want to know how much I am paying which some chargers you do not know and I have never had any problems filling up with fuel maybe a couple of cars in front and certainly not having to wait like I have seen cars nearly an hour to charge when I am at my destination before them it’s crazy.
Ha Ha did not take long for the EV Evangelist to come out of there holes it is a religion they will come up with lots of nonsense and after so may years why did we not have EV cars because there was way back when we had combustion engines but it did not work and it is being proved now many cars that you may buy EV are not worth anything someone was quoted that if you had damage to an EV or replacement batteries it is cheaper to scrap them and now insurance companies are really seeing the light of day with this so it is comming to an end the EV hype and good riddance.
Ha Ha did not take long for the EV Evangelist to come out of there holes it is a religion they will come up with lots of nonsense and after so may years why did we not have EV cars because there was way back when we had combustion engines but it did not work and it is being proved now many cars that you may buy EV are not worth anything someone was quoted that if you had damage to an EV or replacement batteries it is cheaper to scrap them and now insurance companies are really seeing the light of day with this so it is comming to an end the EV hype and good riddance.
I think there’s plenty of nonsense on both sides. What I’m struggling with is why you feel the need to dissuade someone who has already decided that they want to look at an EV?
In short, there’s only, so far, been one person passing off fiction as fact. If you have decided that you want to stick with petrol or hybrid, good for you. Why you feel the need to post when someone asks about EVs I simply don’t understand. You’ll not find me posting on a thread asking about a hybrid SUV and telling them they’ve got it all wrong.
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To be fair I did consider an EV and was put off by what I was seeing and reading and if it is a Motability car then the Depreciation factor is ok if I was buying no way would I as they are now losing so much money and some dealers do not want them. I am not here to dissuade people but just make them aware that for around town they are great but so is the Hybrid whid has the best of both worlds. Now if it was a plug in Hybrid I would not bother and go for an EV but my own choice I am happy I not need to have any Anxiety of having to charge.Another thing is I also think some car dealers and even Motability are plugging the EV and some dealers saying they have these EV’S ready to go and that can be enticing to some it was tried on me but I stuck with a factory petrol Hybrid and so chuffed I did.
You shouldn’t believe everything you see and read. EV’s have come on so far in recent years and the next few years will see more developments. There is a large charging station near me that is covered. Another one not far away that’s covered. There are many chargers where you can use your card, you don’t always need a phone. And as mentioned before, with petrol pushing £1.50 a litre, if you are able to electric it makes sense to.
Ha Ha did not take long for the EV Evangelist to come out of there holes it is a religion they will come up with lots of nonsense and after so may years why did we not have EV cars because there was way back when we had combustion engines but it did not work and it is being proved now many cars that you may buy EV are not worth anything someone was quoted that if you had damage to an EV or replacement batteries it is cheaper to scrap them and now insurance companies are really seeing the light of day with this so it is comming to an end the EV hype and good riddance.
Mini MacMaster is on the forum, I see.
Comedy.
Being able to charge at home with an EV that is long range is so economical on running costs. We are enjoying much more trips out enjoying the car, being silent is so relaxing. For us Charging Stations will only be used a couple of times a year.
2024 - KIA EV6 GT Line AWD
2019 - 2024 BMW X1 2.0d X Drive Sport Auto
2017 -2019 Audi Q3 2.0d Quattro Sport Line Plus
2005 - 2017 Honda CRV Exec 2.0dTo be fair I did consider an EV and was put off by what I was seeing and reading and if it is a Motability car then the Depreciation factor is ok if I was buying no way would I as they are now losing so much money and some dealers do not want them. I am not here to dissuade people but just make them aware that for around town they are great but so is the Hybrid whid has the best of both worlds. Now if it was a plug in Hybrid I would not bother and go for an EV but my own choice I am happy I not need to have any Anxiety of having to charge.Another thing is I also think some car dealers and even Motability are plugging the EV and some dealers saying they have these EV’S ready to go and that can be enticing to some it was tried on me but I stuck with a factory petrol Hybrid and so chuffed I did.
You are aware manufacturers have targets for zero emission vehicle sales now? It’s getting to the point where for every 4 ICE and Hybrid, 1 BEV needs to be sold and when private sales are repressed by fears of depreciation and the FUD spread over social media and the press, then lease companies are getting great deals. Motability are the biggest lease company in the country, if you’re desperately trying to get your quota up, where else do you give substantial discounts and incentives?
Current stats are putting EV drivers changing back to ICE at something around 2% and a big proportion of those are Motability customers returning cars after issues getting a charger installed or refusal to install the charger. There’s got to be something in that.
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