Q1 2022 News & Updates

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  • #172360 Reply
    Mark

    As Q1 is around the corner i thought its time to make that thread.

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  • #173062 Reply
    fwippers
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    Given that Ssangyong are responsible for one of the ugliest cars to ever grace our roads (the Rodius – evidence below), it’s not a bad looking motor 😂

    Maybe with the takeover things could be on the up, the Rodius, however is surely better than the renault 4!

    #173076 Reply
    Sue

    I’m priced even further out than I was in the last quarter, it’s actually quite depressing looking at the lack of suitable vehicles and the very toppy AP’s for the few (and it really is a few) that are suitable.

    #173105 Reply
    Psuader

    Just spoke to Lexus dealer. They’re holding out til Q2 until they join. If at all. He did say, however, that it will be the UX and they have plentiful stock. It’s not been a good seller but that’s down to their optimistic pricing rather than it being a poor product.

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    Glos Guy
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    Just spoke to Lexus dealer. They’re holding out til Q2 until they join. If at all. He did say, however, that it will be the UX and they have plentiful stock. It’s not been a good seller but that’s down to their optimistic pricing rather than it being a poor product.

    When there were rumours of the UX joining a few months ago, I checked out the reviews of it and they aren’t good. I suspect that the dealer didn’t mention that! It would be too small for us anyway but none the less it would be a very welcome addition, not least to get Lexus to buy into Motability.

    #173116 Reply
    vinalspin
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    The UX, having driven one I can say it’s overpriced rubbish, cramped rear cabin and a boot that’s next to useless + the base model has so much missing that to make it even near to standard on it’s own stable-mate the C-HR you would have to spend 6K+ on option packs.

    I don’t particularly like the C-HR but it’s miles better for less money.

    #173134 Reply
    Roadwarrior

    Good evening folks

    There was some speculation, and it was speculation that Mercedes would reappear on the scheme.  I called two dealers, one had no clue and the other suggested there may be a situation,, like other makes of vehicles could reappear in several weeks, anyone in their experience seen this before?

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    fwippers
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    There is always a lot of speculation and lots of rumours, however, we are often left disappointed.

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    Glos Guy
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    Good evening folks There was some speculation, and it was speculation that Mercedes would reappear on the scheme. I called two dealers, one had no clue and the other suggested there may be a situation,, like other makes of vehicles could reappear in several weeks, anyone in their experience seen this before?

    • Best wishes

    Last month, somebody on here found an advert on a dealers website suggesting that Mercedes would be returning to Motability in Q1. Obviously it hasn’t happened to date, but to answer your question it is perfectly possible for manufacturers to join or leave the scheme at any time and not just at the quarter changes. Anything can happen at any time with Motability but the way that the scheme has been going over the past few years we have all managed our expectations – downwards!

    #173322 Reply
    Notts-Red

    Blimey, with one of those I’d be tempted to moonlight as an undertaker 🤣🤣🤣

    #173359 Reply
    Laura

    This might be the highest AP I’ve seen all week! Nearly £10k fir s jeep???

    https://www.jeep.co.uk/motability/compass

    #173362 Reply
    Reed

    I’ve just placed my order for a Vauxhall Grandland Elite 1.2turbo and have been provisionally advised on a delivery date of July 2022, test drove a entry-level Grandland X to get a feel for the drive height and such, very pleased. Excited but a shame on the wait these days.

    #173363 Reply
    David

    These advanced payments are getting silly now. I believe that motability could afford to reduce APs by 50% and still make a reasonable profit.

    #173368 Reply
    Dante

    The worldwide chip shortage and delayed deliveries / lead in times, covid-impact withstanding – motsbility lack of clarity, transparency, culpability & inaction is inexcusable imho.

    i am seriously considering a petition, via one of the recognised platforms, to call Motability Operations into question, their credibility and competence in ‘managing’ the scheme? Whilst a business model is primarily about profit & there needs to be a profit – otherwise the top 4 banks wouldn’t be primary partners – but not at the expense of the customer. We are not widgets, we are a group of people across the disability spectrum, whom have chosen to have our DLA/PIP to lease cars to enable us to get about, improve quality of life and live.

    Motability Operations should be ensuring they have a fit for purpose operation for us its customer base, including investing in the right systems, financial models and formulae to ensure the best range of manufacturers, vehicles and AP’s to ensure all are catered for.
    Not put profit first nor sit on huge reserves.

    more transparency and involvement of motsbility customers as ‘experts by experience’ in designing, redesigning the functions of motsbility operations.

    to ensure that the motsbility accreditation is more robust and accountable for manufacturers / ‘motability specialists’ to be properly trained, monitored and reviewed like a proper quality mark, in line with good governance and quality assurance.

    That profits and moreover motability staff bonuses are linked to motsbility service levels reaching certain key success indicators (KSI’s) and motsbility customer surveys and feedback.

    Yes motsbility is a business frontloaded by investment from the banks but not forgetting it is the DLA / PIP money we choose to spend to lease the cars (and therefore public money allocated to DWP from tax receipts [many of us have paid or still pay] and therefore needs to be accounted for and not to provide big profits, reserves, staff bonuses & over market salaries of the SMT at the top of Motability Operations and the board / non exec directors who are also handsomely remunerated too.!!

    Motability the charity is a different matter but having had some dealings with them, they also need an overhaul and scrutiny under relevant charity laws & legislation.

    obviousky this is just my opinion but would anyone support my argument ?? Obv there will be differing views and I’m open to support as well as constructive criticism of my perspective above.

     

    i have written to the Motability CEO and Chair of the board to the same effect & the relevant government ministers, as well as my MP.

    #173395 Reply
    Tom

    I would support for sure, I get the limit to cars due to chips but I can’t find anything decent for my needs on the scheme and due to renew by march, obviously put in a extension but that only benefits them.

    #173418 Reply
    Ditch

    I would support too!

    #173430 Reply
    Matthew England

    Personally Motability should face some competition in the market to create choice and  lower prices.

    #173593 Reply
    Echo22
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    Thought this thread was about news and updates

    That was a waste of my time then

    #173760 Reply
    Laura

    I spoke to a very friendly mobility Mercedes guy today. From information he told me doesn’t look like it will be added this quarter or if it was late just from something he said. So I’m guessing could not return now till Q2 or Q3 if they even do. He is going to call me as soon as knows anything but I’m guessing won’t be for a little while. I don’t know if I want a Mercedes but not ruling it out .

    #173771 Reply
    Daf

    There is no doubt that at the moment profit comes before customer needs as far as Motability Operations is concerned. There was always going to be a potential problem allocating the running of a charity run leasing scheme to a for profit private company.

    Its obvious that at present the priority for Motability Operations is to maximise profits even if that means providing a substandard service to we, it’s customers. So yes Dante I fully support you and would suggest we either Petition or contact our local MPs to ask them to act on our behalf.

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    DumfriesDik
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    There is no doubt that at the moment profit comes before customer needs as far as Motability Operations is concerned. There was always going to be a potential problem allocating the running of a charity run leasing scheme to a for profit private company. Its obvious that at present the priority for Motability Operations is to maximise profits even if that means providing a substandard service to we, it’s customers. So yes Dante I fully support you and would suggest we either Petition or contact our local MPs to ask them to act on our behalf.

    I can not agree with you about substandard service ‘we’ receive. I think that is very disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

    As for maximising profit, that’s the purpose of any business.

    I think the AP’s have risen and the choice has fallen, and who wouldn’t welcome that to be reversed.

    Good luck with your campaign.

    Mazda CX5 is my DD
    VW ID3 Max on order 5 Nov 21

    #173818 Reply
    Daf

    DumfriesDik wrote

    “can not agree with you about substandard service ‘we’ receive. I think that is very disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

    As for maximising profit, that’s the purpose of any business.

    I think the AP’s have risen and the choice has fallen, and who wouldn’t welcome that to be reversed.”

    Maybe you are not one of the “we” I talked about but to then accuse those who show concern for the degradation of the scheme of being disingenuous is not only inaccurate but plainly wrong.

    Motability operations are sitting on reserves in excess of £2 billion and those funds are far in excess of what other companies have in the sector. Some of those funds should be used to enhance choice and reduce ap’s. That is why I believe the service they provide is inadequate given they act on behalf of a charity.

    Maybe not all on this forum believe that the scheme is being degraded by degrees but though I’ve only been a member for several years in that time choice has been curtailed and ap’s have increased.

     

    #173888 Reply
    Tom

    The scheme is not fit for purpose at the moment, they get abit of sympathy considering the chip shortage ATM. we’ve extended 2 years but hopefully something comes up by q4!

    #173892 Reply
    BigDave
    Participant

    Motability operations are sitting on reserves in excess of £2 billion and those funds are far in excess of what other companies have in the sector. Some of those funds should be used to enhance choice and reduce ap’s.

    As far as I can see in the published details of the relationship between the ‘Motability charity’ and ‘Motability Operations’, there is nothing which actually compels Motability Operations to spend its reserves, nor limit their amount. Unless it is tied up in some ‘commercially confidential’ documents somewhere! (Yes, they must fund the charitable side but that seems ‘by agreement’ between the charity and Motability Operations themselves).

    Then, following on from that, who actually ‘owns’ these reserves? Is it, for example the 4 large banks who actually own Motability Operations? Why would these banks want to spend the money in that case – bearing in mind the reserves will be bearing interest payable to them (and their shareholders).

    Yes, Motability Operations operate as a ‘not for profit’ company (who have to make a profit to make the scheme viable, pay bills/staff/overheads and accrue reserves etc) but the owning banks are certainly ‘for profit’.

    If the entire Motability Scheme was being set up today, there is simply no way the owning banks would permit it to be run as it currently is – as a not-for-profit subsidiary (not without a great deal of political pressure on them and would the current government do that??). Infact the owning banks would probably like to divest themselves of Motability Operations (if it were not for those very reserves)!

    Unless and until there is clarity in the somewhat complex (and seemingly confidential) relationship between the owning banks, Motability Operations and Motability charity I honestly cannot see them wanting to spend any of it.

    Even when the House of Commons Select Committee inquiry peered into Motability Operations and its finances, all they could do was basically tinker around the edges, so what chance do customers have of exerting any structural financial change?

    #173949 Reply
    Peter

    I will echo @Echo22:

    “Thought this thread was about news and updates

    That was a waste of my time then”.

    There have been plenty of other threads on here moaning about Motability.  Let’s keep this one to its intended content.  I didn’t bother visiting for a bit so it’s disappointing to see it’s just more of the same.

    I will try again maybe in a month, maybe…

    #173991 Reply
    WardyGTC
    Participant

    How to delete a comment made on the wrong thread? Edit seems like the only option.

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