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- December 6, 2019 at 1:45 pm#98790
I wonder what Q1 will bring ? any ideas more EV PHEV and Hybrids, diesel with higher AP, petrol staying about the same.
Toyota RAV4 no longer on the scheme, but will we see the new Ford Kuga Hybrid PHEV, the Titanium is only just below the £35000 limit, the ST-Line just a few hundred over ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
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- December 6, 2019 at 2:40 pm #98919
I wonder if we will see some changes announced by Motability come Q1. I think we are due some.
December 6, 2019 at 2:54 pm #98944Price and BHP caps need to rise.
December 6, 2019 at 7:25 pm #98986
MaccaWell, I know Subaru have maintained an ongoing dialogue with Motability since radically shaking up their UK operations. It would be encouraging if the Forester e-boxer makes it onto the scheme.
December 6, 2019 at 8:21 pm #98994
WinstonI’m hoping the price cap rises considerably and not the AP’s ???
December 6, 2019 at 9:16 pm #98999
Speedy JamesAnyone willing to suggest new arrivals?
December 6, 2019 at 10:06 pm #99003We’re due to order in the last days of December, not a great situation but I suspect AP’s will go up, especially as we are looking at the Tiguan Allspace which is currently a bit of a bargain. I could easily see that going up a couple of hundred pounds, or even disappearing from the scheme due to the ridiculous waiting times to delivery.
December 7, 2019 at 12:20 am #99016Hmmm, new arrivals, perhaps the Peugeot e-2008 as the rest of the cars with the same underpinnings are working their way on, perhaps the Peugeot e-208 too.
Motability may well need to look at the way it deals with electric cars & come up with a slightly different way of doing things than it does with ICE cars. Values of 2nd hand EVs have recovered well in the last year as the demand outpaces supply & that is likely to continue for a few years.
December 7, 2019 at 11:49 am #99065
ThargI know I’m repeating myself but…
Be good to see te Polo gti on scheme. Under 200 bhp; cheaper than, and same insurance group as, Cooper S.
December 7, 2019 at 12:03 pm #99066Fingers crossed that the Volvo xc40 hybrid makes it on the scheme, I’ve been told by motability that they hope to have it on very soon.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.December 7, 2019 at 12:53 pm #99071I’m hoping the price cap rises considerably and not the AP’s ???
I can go alone with that, I have had a short list for the past few years, but every car I fancy is either removed from the scheme or the AP goes over my budget.
Ideally I would love a large PHEV with a 50 mile electric range or an EV with a 400 mile range capable of towing which I could keep for 5 years.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
December 7, 2019 at 2:11 pm #99078Oscarmax I think we are a few years away from anything like that coming on the scheme, they exist but just too expensive for the scheme.
I posted a thread recently on the cost reduction of lithium ion batteries and it shows that 2023 will be the year when the cost of BEVs and ICE cars become the same. At this time the only thing stopping BEVs coming on the scheme will be the demand from the general public. As we know the public get first pick of the best cars then motability get what’s left.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.December 7, 2019 at 6:52 pm #99098Up the price limit and the 3 series can come back on.
December 7, 2019 at 7:13 pm #99102Oscarmax I think we are a few years away from anything like that coming on the scheme, they exist but just too expensive for the scheme. I posted a thread recently on the cost reduction of lithium ion batteries and it shows that 2023 will be the year when the cost of BEVs and ICE cars become the same. At this time the only thing stopping BEVs coming on the scheme will be the demand from the general public. As we know the public get first pick of the best cars then motability get what’s left.
Brydo here lies the problem I have a limited budget and need a decent size vehicle to accommodate my mobility scooter and walker, I need a reasonably high SUV I struggle to get in and out of a saloon car. Vehicles similar to the Ford Kuga and some of the VW Tiguan’s suit my need and at present within my budget.
I am due to change in May 2020, by then the new Kuga should be on the scheme, but I would imagine attract a high AP, so that leave the diesel VW Tiguan so were is the incentive/encouragement to be environmental friendly.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
December 8, 2019 at 12:08 am #99123
GeorgeJaguar E Pace or Disco Sport ?
December 8, 2019 at 1:57 am #99135Oscarmax unless the government step in and force car manufacturers to supply EVs to motability we will be three years or so behind everyone else.
Not only will we be behind your ordinary joe bloggs buying their first ev but we we could be behind joe bloggs getting his second ev as the technology makes joes first ev obsolete.
Of course I could, hopefully, be wrong.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.December 9, 2019 at 2:38 pm #99289Well, I know Subaru have maintained an ongoing dialogue with Motability since radically shaking up their UK operations. It would be encouraging if the Forester e-boxer makes it onto the scheme.
I would love this, such a shame Subaru are not represented.
As an aside, yet directly related, I recall reading in some literature a while ago that the reason Subaru and Lexus left and Jaguar and Range Rover never joined is due to the fact that there has to be a vehicle in their range under £24k.
PS. due to increases in price of the new 1 Series BMW no longer have a car under this price point.
December 9, 2019 at 2:53 pm #99292
MaccaIndeed, motability told me that in order for Subaru to offer the Forester there needs to be a spec of it that sits below the value threshold, and as they are pretty well spec’d with now only one engine and one cvt box, well there just isn’t one below the threshold
I had a dialogue with Subaru’s MD, citing other manufacturer’s examples that don’t seem to synch with this criteria either but yhey seem to be able to get the cars on nonetheless. He agreed it was something of a headscratcher how they get their vehicles on.
December 9, 2019 at 6:05 pm #99321I do expect more dumping of obsolete and slow selling cars by manufacturers onto the scheme.
December 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm #99326
Macca<p style=”text-align: left;”>Well, if VW would like to dump a bunch of Tiguan R Lines with 4wd and complimentary cow skin …….. I could certainly swallow it ?</p>
December 9, 2019 at 6:40 pm #99327
jamesgVW has just dumped some golfs on scheme at over £3ooo ap lol.
December 9, 2019 at 7:49 pm #99333
AnonymousWell, I know Subaru have maintained an ongoing dialogue with Motability since radically shaking up their UK operations. It would be encouraging if the Forester e-boxer makes it onto the scheme.
I would love this, such a shame Subaru are not represented. As an aside, yet directly related, I recall reading in some literature a while ago that the reason Subaru and Lexus left and Jaguar and Range Rover never joined is due to the fact that there has to be a vehicle in their range under £24k. PS. due to increases in price of the new 1 Series BMW no longer have a car under this price point.
Do you think there’s a possibility of BMW being removed from the scheme?
December 10, 2019 at 6:03 am #99370
MaccaHi Angellica, the point thats being made here is that the £24000 value threshold only seems to apply ‘selectively’.
To explain, for a manufacturer to be able to offer a certain model on the scheme, there has to be a specification of that particular model available at less than £24000, not just a vehicle in the manufacturer’s range at below that figure.
When I was discussing it with Subaru, I pointed out that Mazda’s entry level CX5, Volkswagon’s entry level Tiguan, and Honda’s entry level CRV to name but three competitor’s SUV rivals to the Subaru Forester, are all priced above the £24000 threshold.
In spite of this all three of those manufacturers are able to get a range of specifications of each of those vehicles on the scheme, yet Subaru can’t join at all.
So the criteria for a manufacturer offering a particular vehicle on the scheme doesn’t appear at least to be being applied consistently across all manufacturers
If anyone can shed any light on that, then by all means do so.
December 10, 2019 at 6:09 am #99371
AnonymousHi Angellica, the point thats being made here is that the £24000 value threshold only seems to apply ‘selectively’. To explain, for a manufacturer to be able to offer a certain model on the scheme, there has to be a specification of that particular model available at less than £24000, not just a vehicle in the manufacturer’s range at below that figure. When I was discussing it with Subaru, I pointed out that Mazda’s entry level CX5, Volkswagon’s entry level Tiguan, and Honda’s entry level CRV to name but three competitor’s SUV rivals to the Subaru Forester, are all priced above the £24000 threshold. In spite of this all three of those manufacturers are able to get a range of specifications of each of those vehicles on the scheme, yet Subaru can’t join at all. So the criteria for a manufacturer offering a particular vehicle on the scheme doesn’t appear at least to be being applied consistently across all manufacturers If anyone can shed any light on that, then by all means do so.
ahhh I see. Thank you for explaining this so well @Macca. Sometimes I can be a bit slow off the mark, don’t mind me lol.
December 10, 2019 at 6:26 am #99372
MaccaI’m surprised you think i’ve explained it well. … I’m not sure i fully understand it myself ?
December 10, 2019 at 6:40 am #99375
AnonymousIf I can understand it this early in the morning, proves how well you’ve explained it ????
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