Q1 2020 what do you recon

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  • #98790
    Oscarmax
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      I wonder what Q1 will bring ? any ideas more EV PHEV and Hybrids, diesel with higher AP, petrol staying about the same.

      Toyota RAV4 no longer on the scheme, but will we see the new Ford Kuga Hybrid PHEV, the Titanium is only just below the £35000 limit, the ST-Line just a few hundred over ?

      Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

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    • #98919
      JS
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        I wonder if we will see some changes announced by Motability come Q1. I think we are due some.

        #98944
        Elliot
        Participant

          Price and BHP caps need to rise.

          #98986
          Macca

            Well, I know Subaru have maintained an ongoing dialogue with Motability since radically shaking up their UK operations. It would be encouraging if the Forester e-boxer makes it onto the scheme.

            #98994
            Avatar photoWinston

              I’m hoping the price cap rises considerably and not the AP’s ???

              #98999
              Speedy James

                Anyone willing to suggest new arrivals?

                #99003
                Andy
                Participant

                  We’re due to order in the last days of December, not a great situation but I suspect AP’s will go up, especially as we are looking at the Tiguan Allspace which is currently a bit of a bargain. I could easily see that going up a couple of hundred pounds, or even disappearing from the scheme due to the ridiculous waiting  times to delivery.

                  #99016
                  gothitjulie
                  Participant

                    Hmmm, new arrivals, perhaps the Peugeot e-2008 as the rest of the cars with the same underpinnings are working their way on, perhaps the Peugeot e-208 too.

                    Motability may well need to look at the way it deals with electric cars & come up with a slightly different way of doing things than it does with ICE cars. Values of 2nd hand EVs have recovered well in the last year as the demand outpaces supply & that is likely to continue for a few years.

                     

                    #99065
                    Tharg

                      I know I’m repeating myself but…

                      Be good to see te Polo gti on scheme. Under 200 bhp; cheaper than, and same insurance group as,  Cooper S.

                      #99066
                      Brydo
                      Participant

                        Fingers crossed that the Volvo xc40 hybrid makes it on the scheme, I’ve been told by motability that they hope to have it on very soon.

                        The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
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                        #99071
                        Oscarmax
                        Participant

                          I’m hoping the price cap rises considerably and not the AP’s ???

                          I can go alone with that, I have had a short list for the past few years, but every car I fancy is either removed from the scheme or the AP goes over my budget.

                          Ideally I would love a large PHEV with a 50 mile electric range or an EV with a 400 mile range capable of towing which I could keep for 5 years.

                          Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                          #99078
                          Brydo
                          Participant

                            Oscarmax I think we are a few years away from anything like that coming on the scheme, they exist but just too expensive for the scheme.

                            I posted a thread recently on the cost reduction of lithium ion batteries and it shows that 2023 will be the year when the cost of BEVs and ICE cars become the same. At this time the only thing stopping BEVs coming on the scheme will be the demand from the general public. As we know the public get first pick of the best cars then motability get what’s left.

                            The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                            Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                            #99098
                            Elliot
                            Participant

                              Up the price limit and the 3 series can come back on.

                              #99102
                              Oscarmax
                              Participant

                                Oscarmax I think we are a few years away from anything like that coming on the scheme, they exist but just too expensive for the scheme. I posted a thread recently on the cost reduction of lithium ion batteries and it shows that 2023 will be the year when the cost of BEVs and ICE cars become the same. At this time the only thing stopping BEVs coming on the scheme will be the demand from the general public. As we know the public get first pick of the best cars then motability get what’s left.

                                Brydo here lies the problem I have a limited budget and need a decent size vehicle to accommodate my mobility scooter and walker, I need a reasonably high SUV I struggle to get in and out of a saloon car. Vehicles similar to the Ford Kuga and some of the VW Tiguan’s suit my need and at present within my budget.

                                I am due to change in May 2020, by then the new  Kuga should be on the scheme, but I would imagine attract a high AP, so that leave the diesel VW Tiguan so were is the incentive/encouragement to be environmental friendly.

                                Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                #99123
                                George

                                  Jaguar E Pace or Disco Sport ?

                                  #99135
                                  Brydo
                                  Participant

                                    Oscarmax unless the government step in and force car manufacturers to supply EVs to motability we will be three years or so behind everyone else.

                                    Not only will we be behind your ordinary joe bloggs buying their first ev but we we could be behind joe bloggs getting his second ev as the technology makes joes first ev obsolete.

                                    Of course I could, hopefully, be wrong.

                                    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
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                                    #99289
                                    wmcforum
                                    Which Mobility Car

                                      Well, I know Subaru have maintained an ongoing dialogue with Motability since radically shaking up their UK operations. It would be encouraging if the Forester e-boxer makes it onto the scheme.

                                      I would love this, such a shame Subaru are not represented.

                                      As an aside, yet directly related, I recall reading in some literature a while ago that the reason Subaru and Lexus left and Jaguar and Range Rover never joined is due to the fact that there has to be a vehicle in their range under £24k.

                                      PS. due to increases in price of the new 1 Series BMW no longer have a car under this price point.

                                      #99292
                                      Macca

                                        Indeed, motability told me that in order for Subaru to offer the Forester there needs to be a spec of it that sits below the value threshold, and as they are pretty well spec’d with now only one engine and one cvt box, well there just isn’t one below the threshold

                                        I had a dialogue with Subaru’s MD, citing other manufacturer’s examples that don’t seem to synch with this criteria either but yhey seem to be able to get the cars on nonetheless. He agreed it was something of a headscratcher how they get their vehicles on.

                                        #99321
                                        Elliot
                                        Participant

                                          I do expect more dumping of obsolete and slow selling cars by manufacturers onto the scheme.

                                          #99326
                                          Macca

                                            <p style=”text-align: left;”>Well, if VW would like to dump a bunch of Tiguan R Lines with 4wd and complimentary cow skin …….. I could certainly swallow it ?</p>

                                            #99327
                                            jamesg

                                              VW  has  just dumped  some  golfs  on scheme  at over  £3ooo  ap    lol.

                                              #99333
                                              Anonymous

                                                Well, I know Subaru have maintained an ongoing dialogue with Motability since radically shaking up their UK operations. It would be encouraging if the Forester e-boxer makes it onto the scheme.

                                                I would love this, such a shame Subaru are not represented. As an aside, yet directly related, I recall reading in some literature a while ago that the reason Subaru and Lexus left and Jaguar and Range Rover never joined is due to the fact that there has to be a vehicle in their range under £24k. PS. due to increases in price of the new 1 Series BMW no longer have a car under this price point.

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Do you think there’s a possibility of BMW being removed from the scheme?

                                                #99370
                                                Macca

                                                  Hi Angellica, the point thats being made here is that the £24000 value threshold only seems to apply ‘selectively’.

                                                  To explain, for a manufacturer to be able to offer a certain model on the scheme, there has to be a specification of that particular model available at less than £24000, not just a vehicle in the manufacturer’s range at below that figure.

                                                  When I was discussing it with Subaru, I pointed out that Mazda’s entry level CX5, Volkswagon’s entry level Tiguan, and Honda’s entry level CRV to name but three competitor’s SUV rivals to the Subaru Forester, are all priced above the £24000 threshold.

                                                  In spite of this all three of those manufacturers are able to get a range of specifications of each of those vehicles on the scheme, yet Subaru can’t join at all.

                                                  So the criteria for a manufacturer offering a particular vehicle on the scheme doesn’t appear at least to be being applied consistently across all manufacturers

                                                  If anyone can shed any light on that, then by all means do so.

                                                   

                                                  #99371
                                                  Anonymous

                                                    Hi Angellica, the point thats being made here is that the £24000 value threshold only seems to apply ‘selectively’. To explain, for a manufacturer to be able to offer a certain model on the scheme, there has to be a specification of that particular model available at less than £24000, not just a vehicle in the manufacturer’s range at below that figure. When I was discussing it with Subaru, I pointed out that Mazda’s entry level CX5, Volkswagon’s entry level Tiguan, and Honda’s entry level CRV to name but three competitor’s SUV rivals to the Subaru Forester, are all priced above the £24000 threshold. In spite of this all three of those manufacturers are able to get a range of specifications of each of those vehicles on the scheme, yet Subaru can’t join at all. So the criteria for a manufacturer offering a particular vehicle on the scheme doesn’t appear at least to be being applied consistently across all manufacturers If anyone can shed any light on that, then by all means do so.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    ahhh I see. Thank you for explaining this so well @Macca. Sometimes I can be a bit slow off the mark, don’t mind me lol.

                                                     

                                                    #99372
                                                    Macca

                                                      I’m surprised you think i’ve explained it well. … I’m not sure i fully understand it myself ?

                                                      #99375
                                                      Anonymous

                                                        If I can understand it this early in the morning, proves how well you’ve explained it ????

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