Q1 2019 Pricing & News (1st Jan – 31st March)

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    Trev
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    Early kick-off for the New Honda CR-V, available to order on the scheme from Jan –

    HONDA CR-V 1.5 VTEC TURBO S 2WD 5DR £1,899
    HONDA CR-V 1.5 VTEC TURBO SE 2WD 5DR £2,099
    HONDA CR-V 1.5 VTEC TURBO SE AWD 5DR 5 SEAT £2,299
    HONDA CR-V 1.5 VTEC TURBO SE AWD CVT 5DR 5 SEAT £3,099
    HONDA CR-V 1.5 VTEC TURBO SR AWD 5DR 5 SEAT £2,999
    HONDA CR-V 1.5 VTEC TURBO SR AWD CVT 5DR 5 SEAT £3,749

     


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  • #68430 Reply

    Stewart

    If everyone lobbied their own MP then something would be done.

    If we stay silent then things will carry on getting worse.

    #68434 Reply

    DellBoy
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    Maybe someone could do up a draft letter that we can all share and get others to send in too

    #68436 Reply

    paulhelliwell

    i don’t see how motability can justify there ap when they only pay 50% for the car in the first place

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    solent60
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    i don’t see how motability can justify there ap when they only pay 50% for the car in the first place

     

    50% ??? I’m not sure that’s true. I was under the impression that Motability do not have to pay any VAT on new cars. VAT makes up a fifth of the price of a new car. The £18,000 cost of a mid-range Vauxhall Astra (for example) includes £3,000 of VAT which would normally go to the government. Obviously Motability do not have to pay this. Not sure where you get 50% from… but I’m happy to stand corrected!

    #68611 Reply

    Ad1

    Morning,

    I’m not sure where 50% comes from either, but I used get look after a companies small fleet (60 vehicles) and we got nearly 30% discount on two of the major volume brands under the assumption of placing orders for 3 vehicles per year so I expect with the volumes motability do 50% is a realistic figure.  Under your example the £15k car (ex VAT) costs motability £7.5 to buy, obviusuly other costs such as insurance maintenance etc that they pay for which need to be covered from the payments we make.

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    Mike
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    i don’t see how motability can justify there ap when they only pay 50% for the car in the first place

    50% ??? I’m not sure that’s true. I was under the impression that Motability do not have to pay any VAT on new cars. VAT makes up a fifth of the price of a new car. The £18,000 cost of a mid-range Vauxhall Astra (for example) includes £3,000 of VAT which would normally go to the government. Obviously Motability do not have to pay this. Not sure where you get 50% from… but I’m happy to stand corrected!

     

    If you want to listen to two and a half hours of the latest Treasury Committee and Work and Pensions Committee on Motability held on Wednesday just gone (9th January 2019), it partially addresses this point.

    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/a75d3364-1ed7-42c0-bff0-78cf0ed5c279

    (It is split into 3 consecutive sessions, firstly the National Audit Office, then Motability Charity, then Motability Operations).

    The National Audit Office state that for a Motability customer, overall Motability is 40% to 44% cheaper than commercial schemes. Also, they operate with a 40% discount on the vehicles.

    This can be partly accounted for due to the very advantageous tax regime Motability operate under.

    However, over 10 years customers have allegedly been over charged by £390m solely in depreciation savings albeit this figure is later disputed and somewhat mitigated.

    A couple of interesting points from the committee hearing are:

    For claims under £25k, Motability now self-insure.

    Only 36% of people eligible to use Motability, actually use Motability.

    Motability lose £3,800 0n every WAV on the scheme.

    There is an interesting mini debate over whether profits generated from disabled people should be ploughed into the Motability charity vice using these generated profits to reduce the scheme costs to the disabled customer. Sadly, this doesn’t really get answered, but is interesting never-the-less.

    Mike

     

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    Mike
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    Sorry, I forgot to add, if you wish to read the full National Audit Office report into Motability which my post above refers to, it is available here:

    https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/The-Motability-scheme.pdf

    Mike

    #69524 Reply

    Oscarmax
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    I have noticed the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Juro  being advertised new unregistered @ £31,349, considering Mobility Operation buying power and VAT free status why are they charging £3749 AP.


    In 2005 I suffered a brain injury which has left me with mental and physical disabilities.
    Unfortunately I do get confused and get things wrong, so I apologise in advance.

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    Oscarmax
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    I have noticed the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Juro being advertised new unregistered @ £31,349, considering Mobility Operation buying power and VAT free status why are they charging £3749 AP.

    https://www.uk-car-discount.co.uk/vehicle/85803/mitsubishi-outlander-estate-2.4-phev-juro-5dr-auto


    In 2005 I suffered a brain injury which has left me with mental and physical disabilities.
    Unfortunately I do get confused and get things wrong, so I apologise in advance.

    #69815 Reply

    David

    We are going to have to change our Motability car in the next few months. That said we will be sorry to see our Volvo XC60 returned, unfortunately its not in the scheme anymore. Its been a fantastic car, never gone wrong, so comfortable and easy to drive with all the gadgets we needed. We had to make a decision which SUV to go for next. We narrowed it down to 4 models, BMW X1, Merc GLA, Volvo XC40 and Mazda CX-5. The BMW & Merc didn’t feel as roomy as the XC60, plus you had to pay for the extra’s. Disappointingly the XC40 was very expensive for the bottom of the range car and again you had to pay for the extra’s! So that left the Mazda CX-5 (petrol,manual,sport). We enjoyed the test drive, it gave as much room as the XC60 plus all the same gadgets and more, lovely design. Disappointing you had to work the engine at low revs, the info screen was a little on the small size and you had to pay £800 for cream leather (for some reason it has to come with a safety pack!). That said the plus’s out weighed the minus’s, so we’ve ordered a blue one which should be available in about 12 weeks.

    #70701 Reply

    Geoff

    or for those wanting to explore having their own PCP you could do worse than checking out the established brokers.

    PCP would be based on the discounted price, and am I correct in thinking that for disabled users cars are VAT free?

     

    #70702 Reply

    Dragonfly

    It was my understand that for the car to be VAT free  it had to have been adapted in some manner to suit the needs of the disabled person.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/customer-declaration-for-zero-rated-vat-supply-of-an-adapted-motor-vehicle-vat1615a

    This outtake is from the above site

    you’re normally a wheelchair user
    it’s only purchased for personal and domestic use
    your vehicle has been permanently and substantially adapted to meet your requirements
    you haven’t (since 1 April 2017) obtained a VAT free vehicle under this relief in the past 3 years

    There are a number of items that are considered VAT free for disabled people we didn’t pay VAT on our loft insulation or the work on our on suite bathroom.

    #70710 Reply

    Ronny

    Hi, Iv alway wondered about this VAT stuff, how do you know what is and whats not. I am getting a PHEV and the Cables are expensive, would I have to pay the VAT on them?

    Sorry to jump in on a bit of a diffent question

    #71721 Reply

    Dazzle

    Hi guys / ladies

    i have a Seat Ateca I collected in October, but dumbly I went for manual and my condition means I almost cannot drive it.

    worried sick to my stomach and so annoyed with myself I am using friends or taxis

    is it much of a drama to admit I made a dumb choice?

    i need a taller car for access and always had diesels but now I feel should of gone petrol as I not doing any mileage but an automatic and possibly consider hand controls

    Was thinking of the Mazda cx3 as advance payments going to be tight

    can anyone recommend a larger sized car (im 6ft3 )

    id also like a keyless car as inserting the key can sometimes be a real pain

    thankyou in advance

    #71772 Reply

    72 Dudes

    I have no idea about early termination of your current car – I’m sure more experienced readers will be along soon.

    As to a replacement car, in your situation I’d be looking seriously at a Kia Niro. Firstly it’s a petrol/hybrid and Automatic, which would suit your circumstances.

    Secondly, the ‘2’ spec is available with £0 AP currently, although I don’t think it has keyless go.

    The ‘3’ spec has all kinds of goodies for £799 AP but I think you need the ‘4’ spec for keyless go which is £1299 AP.

    Alternatively the Vauxhall Grandland X 1.2 petrol auto might fit the bill, I would imagine the top ‘Elite’ spec has keyless go, but please check.

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