PIP 10yr light touch award quick turn around

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    jojo22
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      Sent my PIP 10yr light touch review form back about 8 weeks ago

      Had a text a few days ago

      Decision has been made and a letter is expected in the next 2 weeks

      Just posting the possible time scale to help others in the same situation

       

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    • #334234
      DJ Kav
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        What did you put in the boxes, “No change.”?

        I have ASD and thus have difficulty with social and understanding information, written and verbal. I process information in logical blocks, before I reply. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.
        I also have a corneal visual condition, which makes me visually impaired without daytime, or daytime bulbs, among other disabilities/conditions.

        #334235
        Dino70
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          Do they tell you in the text what the decision is, or is that only in the letter?

          #334236
          Glos Guy
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            Sent my PIP 10yr light touch review form back about 8 weeks ago Had a text a few days ago Decision has been made and a letter is expected in the next 2 weeks Just posting the possible time scale to help others in the same situation

            Useful info. Thanks. It must be at least 10 years since my wife’s last review, although I possibly recall something about it being indefinite. That might have been my interpretation though. I would also be interested to know whether the decision is in the text, or do they leave you hanging?

            #334237
            DJ Kav
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              My mum’s is sometime starting this year, depends when they send the forms.

              Mine is after November 2031.

              I have ASD and thus have difficulty with social and understanding information, written and verbal. I process information in logical blocks, before I reply. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.
              I also have a corneal visual condition, which makes me visually impaired without daytime, or daytime bulbs, among other disabilities/conditions.

              #334238
              MickC
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                Sent my PIP 10yr light touch review form back about 8 weeks ago Had a text a few days ago Decision has been made and a letter is expected in the next 2 weeks Just posting the possible time scale to help others in the same situation

                Are you a pensioner ?

                #334250
                des
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                  If decision is made and your waiting on the letter for the outcome, phone them up and they will tell you. That been the case for mine and any other forms I’ve done for people.

                  Last one was a strange one. A guy asked me to do his form if he phoned up to get it. He phoned and ended up doing an assessment over the phone there and then. He panicked but did it as he was ‘petrified’.

                  Call ended and he got his award through by text within two weeks. Living standard rate, mobility enhanced. His was for mental health and anxiety issues. He’s also employed although out sick a lot and I believe that helps with claims especially the epilepsy ones I’ve done.

                   

                  #334253
                  jojo22
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                    Answers to some above Q that have been asked

                    Text from DWP gives no indication of award and asks that you do not ring them before you get the letter

                    I was not contacted via phone before they decided so I assume I gave them enough info to make a decision

                    Please note this is not advice but simply informing you how I filled out the light touch review form

                    I treated light touch review form in explanation pretty much the same as I did in my original appication 10yrs ago

                    I remembered that lack of detail could allow misinterpretation

                    Although there is no change from my original award

                    I thought it best practise to not simply say no change but instead expand/explain answers in more detail for ex about how my disability impacts daily life and why certain tasks cannot be done or if done how it impacts

                    I also answered every time and when/where applicable

                    Unable to do something “Repeatedly”/”safely/ reasonable time period”

                    PIP (Personal Independence Payment) assessments, a person must be able to complete activities “safely, to an acceptable standard, repeatedly, and in a reasonable time period” to be considered capable. “Repeatedly” means as often as reasonably required, while “reasonable time” is defined as no more than twice as long as a person without a disability.

                    I also ran out of room in the boxes  so I attached an A4 of explanations headed (additional information attached (staple to form) to support my claim)/Name/NI/date/ then signed it/belt n braces tracked/recorded delivery ( If needed extra supporting evidence can be sent in afterwards but note the PO number for extra info is slightly different to the main review forms return address) Google is your friend

                    Also my understanding is that an ongoing award was originally given as no change was expected

                    Also from memory a reported change in condition if declared may well result in the whole award being looked at again and not just the changes declared

                    Some people refer to indefinite awards but like ongoing awards (mine) all benefits are/can be open to further review anytime DWP wants to review.

                    As before seek proper advice this is only based on my preferred way of doing things having been through and won at tribunal

                    I confidently kept in mind that an ongoing PIP award is the strongest award

                    Fill in the short review form correctly attach more info if there is not enough space to give a full answer/explanation and the DWP would have to have very good reasons not to renew the award

                    Hope this helps

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                    #334258
                    des
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                      Excellent advice JoJo. Two things to add. I always get someone who knows the claimant to write a few pages on how they know the claimant and how they see how their  disability effects them. Not a story, but just to the point. Any extra evidence is good evidence.

                      One other thing. I always pay to have the ‘Benefits and work guides you can trust’ website. It costs about £20 for the year. It’s always updated and covers a lot of the legal definitions and court rulings of those that have been through the tribunals. They have a lot of case studies that will define some of the jargon or questions that are designed to throw you. When I done the CAB training they used it. Good enough for them, good enough for me.

                      #334262
                      jojo22
                      Participant

                        Are you a pensioner ?

                        Thank you and also agree with your advice more so when first making a claim

                        Also MickC to answer your Q

                        Are you a pensioner ?

                        I am indeed and to add to anyone reading this

                        I was one of the first to go onto PIP

                        The whole PIP application thing can be a minefield so best to seek expert advice

                        Learn bite size pieces at a time and dont give up

                        A badly worded/submitted application can be hard to distance yourself from at a later date

                        I am now waiting in anticipation for the DWP award letter to arrive

                         

                         

                        #334265
                        Glos Guy
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                          For those who feel confident enough doing their own applications, I recommend the ‘Disability Rights Handbook’ produced by Disability Rights UK.

                          My wife asked me to compile her first PIP application and, using this book, I was able to articulate all the numerous aspects of her condition against each of the criteria that they consider. It took me almost a week (on and off) to ensure that I had covered every aspect and articulated everything in a way that supported her claim (no exaggeration needed and we wouldn’t want to do that anyway – there are enough benefit cheats in this country without us adding to the numbers).

                          My wife was awarded higher rate for both Daily Living and Mobility, but the award letter said that the next review would be in 3 years time. I asked for a mandatory reconsideration of this, with a supporting letter stating that, unless they knew something that I didn’t, my wife’s condition was not curable and would only get worse (as indeed it has), so the stress and time consuming demand of having to go through it all again in just 3 years time seemed unreasonable and unnecessary. They agreed and it became an indefinite award with a light touch review after 10 years, although I think we might be over 10 years now and haven’t heard anything.

                          A lot of people blame the system when they don’t get an award that they feel that they are due, but I think it’s more likely down to poor quality applications. You cannot spend too much time on getting these things right and, if you don’t have the confidence or ability to do it to the required standard then seek help. There’s plenty of it out there and much of it is free, especially if you have a willing and able family member or friend.

                          #334281
                          jojo22
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                            Glos Guy

                            Great advice as always

                            Update good news

                            Postman just been PIP Light touch now completed took about 9 weeks total from filling in the form to getting my continued high rate x2 PIP letter

                            Phew lol

                            EV3 WILL BE ORDERED IN JUNE FINGERS CROSSED

                            #334284
                            kezo
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                              Congrats!

                              Daughter turned 16 on the 18th and letter dated the 19th arrived through the post this morning, saying she now needs to claim PIP!

                              I was under the impression from various sites, PIP transferes were delayed untill 2028 and thought we would be safe till at least 2027, when her DLA award ended.

                              Oh well, more work I don’t need right now!

                              #334286
                              jojo22
                              Participant

                                Cheers Kezo

                                I must admit its a relief no matter the strength of a claim it still has you on tender hooks tbh

                                From what I understand via AI the latest info is as follows

                                DLA to PIP Transfers: The move from Disability Living Allowance (DLA) to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) for remaining claimants (those on indefinite awards) has been delayed. Reports indicate this pause is in place until at least April 2028.

                                Unless you live in Scotland I imagine your daughter now being 18 also coincided with the end of her given award

                                As I understand it otherwise she may well have been invited to apply for PIP long before now ( 16 onwards)

                                PIP is my forte and not DLA  so I am simply googling the above

                                So its down to indefinite awards only as far as I can see

                                If you feel you need help going forward I have a few pointers

                                And if you feel I can be of any help going forward please ask

                                 

                                 

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                                #334290
                                kezo
                                Participant

                                  Thanks Jojo22

                                  Daughter turned 16 on 18th of this month, both Benefits & Work and CA were under the impression migration to PIP was delayed untill 2028 or the end of their current DLA award (Jan 2027) which is what, I had read on Welfare Rights and gov.uk. I also read somewhere, that people can be picked at random nd when it comes to picking the short straw, this house is very good at it😂

                                  She has been on DLA since the age of 5 and has received 2 awards, the first for 5yrs and the second 6yrs, which would have taken it till January 2027. In the past, we have used our local Welfare Rights to fill out the forms on the assumption an “agency” signing the form was better however, we have concerns of letting them do it for PIP, as they have never managed to fill the boxes on the form with text, leaving me to have always felt the need to write in more detail on seperate A4 sheets, so were thinking of doing it ourselves this time, so thanks for your offer.

                                  Were hoping for a paper based indefinate award or at the very least a 10y year award with light touch reviews. It isn’t as we don’t have plenty of evidence and having being awarded her ongoing Appointee, I will be able talk on her behalf.

                                  Thank you 🙂

                                   

                                  #334292
                                  mitch
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                                    i put in a request for increase in war pension over a year ago all i have had are a couple of emails basically saying we are busy we havent forgotton you we are processing your claim.

                                    last time it took over 2 years so i am not holding my breath.

                                    #334293
                                    Oscarmax
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                                      A few years ago I received a letter stating they have looked at my PIP award again, I have a indefinate award.

                                      Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                      #334294
                                      jojo22
                                      Participant

                                        You said @ Kezo

                                        thought we would be safe till at least 2027, when her DLA award ended.

                                        Its normal practise and can be expected to have a review 1yr before award end

                                        The intention or reason given by DWP is that plenty of time is given for the review thus prevents the award from expiring.

                                        Guess selection is simply putting their hand into a hat

                                        With PIP its all about explaining how you are able or unable to lead every day life with your disability. How it impacts your daily life

                                        Strong supporting medical evidence. Well worded application that is detailed whilst keeping to point and condense as possible.

                                        Explain Explain otherwise they will be able to use their own interpretation ( thats in their training manual ) Attach a A4  if needed A4 headed additional evidence/date/name/NI Number/staple to form/keep a copy of everything sent/where applicable say unable to do so safely/in a reasonable time/or cannot do repeatably (if when applicable use these terms as often as needed throughout the form/cant get all info in the small box write see N01 answer on additional sheet/post tracked signed for.

                                        Start everything off on a pad keep coming back to that until your happy then fill out the form

                                        As always this is simply explaining how I do things a guide that can be adjusted as you feel fit

                                        As always seek expert advice if/when needed

                                        p/s If a condition changes then a shorter award can be expected

                                        Longer award can be expected for conditions that are stable and unlikely to change/improve

                                        I look forward to hearing that your daughter has won her deserved award

                                        Please keep us updated

                                         

                                         

                                         

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                                        #334313
                                        kezo
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                                          Thank you jojo22

                                          #336830
                                          DumfriesDik
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                                            I am due to be ADP reviewed this year. I know this because I applied for a blue badge renewal last year, and they only gave me one year. There is so much craziness around.

                                            I wonder what type of review they will do for me, bearing in mind I’ve had the benefit (and orange/blue badge) in one guise or another for 47 years. I hope common sense prevails, should I open a book?

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                                            #336846
                                            Southamman
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                                              I am also on a lighttouch and now a pensioner, however, since the light touch, I have lost sight in one eye and have fuchs Dystrophy abd macukar degeneration in tge other.

                                              Whilst I know as a pensioner, my mobility part cannot be introduced, but I think the Daily living can? As niw I gave serious problems cooking 9reparibg food etc

                                              #336851
                                              jojo22
                                              Participant

                                                I am more versed in PIP and this is not direct advice I only post what I have or would do. Everyone is different

                                                From what I gather is that an ADP review is not dissimilar from PIP

                                                And I suspect your form will be lots of tick box yes/no has your condition changed

                                                If you look above at my advice ( Im no legal expert but I have pretty much dealt with most PIP related hurdles)

                                                Best imo NOT to simply tick a few boxes and leave it at that

                                                In short expand/detail your answers if everything is the same then repeat things that were put on your original claim

                                                Not enough room in the forms boxes then refer to my Kezo reply above as it expands on presentation and take on board what was said

                                                Let us know when it arrives and how you got on

                                                Im sure after all this time you will be fine 🙂

                                                 

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                                                #336855
                                                jojo22
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                                                  I am also on a lighttouch and now a pensioner, however, since the light touch, I have lost sight in one eye and have fuchs Dystrophy abd macukar degeneration in tge other. Whilst I know as a pensioner, my mobility part cannot be introduced, but I think the Daily living can? As niw I gave serious problems cooking 9reparibg food etc

                                                  You are correct  and things to keep in mind

                                                  Easier if you have strong supporting evidence

                                                  I assume you are aware a reported change of circumstances at review will now allow DWP to relook at the whole of your award

                                                  When your circumstances changed the DWP would have expected to have been updated asap

                                                  Good luck best wishes

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  #336864
                                                  solent60
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                                                    I’m still on DLA and have been for almost 30-years now. I haven’t been reassessed for a good 10-years I would guess. I have recently turned 65 and I don’t even know what, if anything, changes once I reach retirement age next year?!?!

                                                    I’m assuming DWP will write to me nearer the time? I’m hoping that once I reach retirement, I am still entitled to PIP or its equivalent and allowed to keep my car?

                                                    Apologies for my ignorance.

                                                    #336866
                                                    Glos Guy
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                                                      I’m still on DLA and have been for almost 30-years now. I haven’t been reassessed for a good 10-years I would guess. I have recently turned 65 and I don’t even know what, if anything, changes once I reach retirement age next year?!?! I’m assuming DWP will write to me nearer the time? I’m hoping that once I reach retirement, I am still entitled to PIP or its equivalent and allowed to keep my car? Apologies for my ignorance.

                                                      My understanding is that as long as you have been entitled to the qualifying benefit for a Motability car prior to state retirement age, you will be able to retain it for life. You can’t qualify if your first successful claim is beyond state retirement age.

                                                      The only caveat to that is that the Timms review might suggest restricting access to the scheme for those with physical disabilities only, rather than mental health issues (as seems to be the call from most corners at present). However, as the equal treatment of mental health issues was only implemented a few years back, and you have been a recipient for almost 30 years, I’m guessing that you wouldn’t be affected even if that did happen.

                                                      #336874
                                                      solent60
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                                                        @Glos Guy ; thanks for the reply mate.

                                                        I caught polio when I was a very young kid which left me with one leg very thin and no muscle whatsoever hardly plus it was 3-inches shorter than the other leg. My hips are twisted badly too. Never bothered me in life and I lived a pretty ‘normal’ life to be honest, just like my friends. The only thing it ever stopped me doing was joining the Royal Navy (my dad was a submariner for 29-years and I always wanted to see the world) and driving a manual car with three pedals – so I’ve driven all these past 45-years or more automatic gearbox only and with my left leg, not my right. I joined NAAFI after the Navy said no and, ironically, I spent the next 12-years at sea on HM Ships running the tiny shop selling ciggies, beer, ‘nutty’ (chocolate bars), ‘goffas’ (soft drink cans) etc. Everywhere my ship went – I went, including the South Atlantic during the Falklands War for which I was awarded a medal. Best of all, I did get to see a whole lot of the world after all & that was my main aim in life when I was young and about to leave school.

                                                        Now that I’m 65 however, I find it difficult – a minefield – to navigate my way through government red tape. Time has caught up with me somewhat & my legs, hips etc cause me no end of pain and discomfort the older I get. I had big operations when I was 13 and again at 16 to try and rectify my legs. I have a mobility scooter on bad days & use a stick on better days but like many others on this fine, helpful website, I have no idea about assessments, rules, regulations, what to do & say because governments keep moving the goalposts!  It’s a huge relief knowing that I will be able to keep my Motability car past retirement age, a real lifeline my car, so thanks for the heads’ up mate. Let’s hope ‘Dim Timm’ does the right & decent thing for us all.

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