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- February 11, 2023 at 2:54 pm#208966
BrydoJust came through to St Andrews yesterday and was surprised to achieve 50 mpg in our Volvo xc40 PHEV. I had the electric on “Hold” so the journey , of some 80 miles, was on petrol. Most of the 80 miles was completed on motorway (50 miles) with the remaining 30 on A and B roads.
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- February 12, 2023 at 3:48 pm #209064
JimboI got 61mpg on a 50 mile trip,
all A road doing 65 mph.
that’s in a, A class Merc A200d.
it’s a great car, the 3 years are up in June.
February 12, 2023 at 3:49 pm #209061
SmoggyUsing private bought car whilst wait on daughters van.
64 on a run to Nottingham and back 30 miles in towns 350 motorway in a 2012 112hp Peugeot 508 SW
Shame that the month later on the same run the timing belt snapped at 70mph and left the engine completely trashed 🙂 so that went to the scrap yard. Now use a 2009 Mazda 6 estate 2.2 remapped to 210hp and still get 50+ on the same run.
February 12, 2023 at 3:54 pm #209071Well we only had the car for a day, and only did one drive (home) lol.
75mpg, around 50ish miles (half of which motorway), while trying to force the ICE to run as much as possible (getting some miles on it/bedding it in).
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.February 12, 2023 at 4:36 pm #2090731L MHEV Skoda Octavia got 68 mpg on a run to Cornwall last year with 2 adults 2 heavy suitcases and travel mobility scooter on the back seat.
February 12, 2023 at 5:00 pm #20907440.5 mpg on a 150 mile run mainly A roads. 29mpg local 2022 Hyundai Tuscon!
February 12, 2023 at 6:26 pm #20908347.3 mpg with my 1.5TSi DSG Seat Tarraco FR Sport. Kendal to Welwyn Garden City. Not bad from a breeze block on wheels!!
February 12, 2023 at 7:57 pm #20908765.1mpg
I don’t remember where I went but it was unusually high so I took a pic
February 12, 2023 at 9:06 pm #209090My C4 1.2 155 EAT8 I got 70mpg from South Wales Valleys to Brean in Somerset.
Current Car 25 Citroën C5 Aircross 1.5BlueHDi 130 EAT8 Max Edition
Previous Cars
05 C3 Exclusive 1.6 110 SensoDrive
08 C2 VTR 1.6 110 SensoDrive
11 C3 Exclusive 1.6 120 Auto
14 C3 Picasso Exclusive 1.6 120 EGS6
19 C4 Cactus Flair 1.2 110 EAT6
21 C4 Shine Plus 1.2 155 EAT8Citroën Fanatic.
February 12, 2023 at 10:00 pm #209091
Ricky Davey crazy maybe16 mpg average but then it’s is 2ltr 4×4 Skoda Karoq and goes like stink in what I call double sports mode It’s an absolute beast
but most of the time it’s in eco mode and I get 40 -42 miles per gallon which is not great but it’s an absolute weapon if you want it be and that suits me right now as this might be the last car I drive it’s very nice to know with a quick shift of the dsg and a family car turns into something else it’s very much Jackel and Hyde and it brings a lot of joy
February 12, 2023 at 10:01 pm #209093XC40 T3 Auto 52.2 mpg on a trip from Hayling Island to Weymouth, on hols last year. Usually get around 50 on round trip to London.
Bz4x fwd vision in silver
February 13, 2023 at 8:29 am #209111Our regular journey to visit the grandchildren a 70 mile all-round journey in the summer around 100 mpg, in the recent colder weather this has dropped down to mid 60’s mpg we have always start off with a 9.6 kWh charge.
In the summer we tow the 1500kg caravan on a 178 mile journey each way in the summer. Post E10 or E5 we regularly recorded 32 mpg towing, on E10 this has become a distance dream we not see 28-30 mpg, so much for saving the planet ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
February 13, 2023 at 9:21 am #209120Aberdeen to Gatwick, 68mpg from our 08 plate Grand Picasso 1.6 diesel auto, cruise set to 75. It would easily post over 70mpg on my run home from work if I stuck to 60mph. The newer 2015 model never achieved such high mileage despite claiming to be more efficient, just couldn’t get it over 58mpg & its average over 60,000 miles was 4mpg lower than the older one.
On petrol, drove sons Skoda Citigo to work for 6 weeks, averaged 52mpg at 70mph, it was lovely to drive if a bit small. Previous petrol was a 1998 V70 2.5, its best was 36mpg tootling about on empty D roads in France, its overall average was about 28-30 over the 150,000 miles & 9 years I owned it.
In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.
February 13, 2023 at 5:57 pm #209164
That’s with a bit of faffing about in laybys, figuring things out, in hybrid forcing charge over 90%. Reasonably driving though, no hooning.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.February 13, 2023 at 8:44 pm #209173As usual, I was going to ignore this thread as an EV Driving, home charging Motability customer. I’ve decided to respond, as it’s valid eye opening information for anyone who might be or could be in a similar position to me.
I’m averaging the equivalent of 290 mpg this month.
February 13, 2023 at 10:12 pm #209177@Brydo As usual, I was going to ignore this thread as an EV Driving, home charging Motability customer. I’ve decided to respond, as it’s valid eye opening information for anyone who might be or could be in a similar position to me. I’m averaging the equivalent of 290 mpg this month.
How did you get to that equivalent? Just curious, because when i do the math based on the numbers you published (50kwh battery, 120-160 mile range), you’re nowhere near 290mpg. Not even half that, in fact.
You’re averaging around 3 miles per kwh. That’s the equivalent of around 120mpg. This thread is about actual efficiency, not how much you paid for the distance you drove.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.February 13, 2023 at 10:16 pm #209178Pretty pleased today considering there was a bit of stop and start traffic between Burham On Sea and Brean.
had a nice run down from South Wales

Current Car 25 Citroën C5 Aircross 1.5BlueHDi 130 EAT8 Max Edition
Previous Cars
05 C3 Exclusive 1.6 110 SensoDrive
08 C2 VTR 1.6 110 SensoDrive
11 C3 Exclusive 1.6 120 Auto
14 C3 Picasso Exclusive 1.6 120 EGS6
19 C4 Cactus Flair 1.2 110 EAT6
21 C4 Shine Plus 1.2 155 EAT8Citroën Fanatic.
February 14, 2023 at 8:31 am #209193I’ve got to that equivalance by comparing my energy costs per mile in the EV to the cost of petrol at £1.389 as, to me, that’s a fair like for like comparison.
TBH, all I’m interested in is how much I paid for the distance I drove ?. MPG figures are meaningless. It’s all about how much it costs you to travel those miles each year. With the cost of living being so high, anything that can save you money has to be a good thing. Yeah, charging costs are on the up but at my current cost of just over 2p a mile I’m quids in for a long time yet.
February 14, 2023 at 8:56 am #209194Yeah i expected that you went for that – it’s obviously a meaningless comparison in this context regardless of whether you think it’s fair or not.
People are comparing efficiency here. Energy used. Not “how much did i pay”. By your “measure”, someone who can’t charge at home gets less mpg, or your mpg drops when prices rise. Clearly people here compare how far they get on a given measure, not how much they pay for that. It’s literally a “mile per gallon” comparison, not a “pennies per mile” comparison.
That’s where you get fantasy numbers like your 290mpg. EVs are good (and i’m one of the most ardent defenders of them here) – but making up numbers that look great but mean jack is the equivalent of the WLTP cycle.
MPG figures are very much important, since they point out efficiency. You do around 120-130mpg. That’s good compared to pure ICE cars, that’s okayish/roughly equal compared with (non-SUV) PHEVs, and it’s the bottom end compared to other EVs.
It’s all about how much it costs you to travel those miles each year.
Yeah. And your number doesn’t tell anything about it, because instead of telling us “how much you need to refuel for a given distance”, you tell us “what you paid for it”. That’s great, and i get the appeal since we’re driving locally electric too, but again doesn’t mean anything in this comparison since you’re comparing something else entirely. It also doesn’t mean anything else because that number will look vastly different when you have to recharge away from base.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.February 14, 2023 at 9:07 am #209195I started off my first post by saying:
“@Brydo As usual, I was going to ignore this thread as an EV Driving, home charging Motability customer.”
I should have taken my own advice ?. If you don’t think that the actual cost of your fuel, whether diesel, petrol or electricity, over the year is the most important figure then we will have to agree to disagree.
I’m out.
February 14, 2023 at 9:21 am #209196Fuel consumption comparison between Diesel, Petrol and Petrol Hybrid are straight forward, PHEV not quite so straight forward at present I charge up off peak 5 pence @ kWh, in March my off peak increase to 18 pence @ kWh, both distort when adding my electric and fuel cost together, my average using these figures over the past 30 month approximately 136.8 mpg.
In reality using the current average energy price 34 pence @ kWh and fuel cost a real world figures;
Ford Kuga PHEV 11.1 pence @ mile
Outlander PHEV 13.2 pence @ mile
RAV4 PHEV 9 pence @ mile
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
February 14, 2023 at 9:27 am #209197Average petrol car unleaded E10 45 mpg 15.5 pence @ mile
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
February 14, 2023 at 9:32 am #209198Average EV 3 mile/kWh using current energy cost 34 pence kWh 11.33 pence @ mile ?
Unless you charge up off peak at home has the bubble burst ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
February 14, 2023 at 10:20 am #20920799mpg just after reset going downhill for a couple of miles,phenominal 2.0 Kuga AWD.
February 14, 2023 at 10:32 am #209209Over the last 16000 miles my EV has averaged 3.2m/kw, at 34p/kw that’s just over 59mpg petrol equivalent with fuel at £1.41.9 (local Asda today).
The caveat is, as Rene rightly pointed out, that it all depends on your electricity tariff. I am not on a fancy low overnight rate, as I am still on a fixed deal at 17.4p (and my gas at 2.4p), so it would be economically crazy to leave that deal over winter when my gas bill is £300 a month already. It ends soon, so who knows what I will end up paying.
At my actual 17.4p ratre I am getting 116 mpg equivalent.
In winter its worse, in summer, better.
In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.
February 14, 2023 at 11:10 am #209219My Octopus Go 5p off peak/13.72 day rate ends on the 3rd March, because I am Octopus Go, we only receive 4.1p kWh for our solar export. The current Octopus Go new rate in March is 12p off peak/42 p day rate, however the solar export is still 4.1p kWh
We are going to change over too Octopus ECO7 00.01 – 07.00am off peak 17.73 off peak/45.15 day rate, however the solar export is 15p kWh which will cushion the blow.
The bad news all new energy rates are variable as opposed to fixed ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
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