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- November 11, 2023 at 7:25 pm#243085Rob
I had a text today to tell me that my charge point for the Enaq (which may never arrive- see the topic on that one !) is being fitted Monday.
I was inquisitive and opened the box that has been delivered. I laid it on the driveway and looked at the length of the new car on google and measured it. The wire will wither be under tension or be too short unless I reverse the car onto the driveway which I don’t want to do as the charging port flap being massive will surely be clipped by people walking past it.
Has anyone had their charger fitted and at the same time, the fitter extending the charger cable? My charger will be in my garage and the lead ported outside so I can’t move the charger, have to extend the lead.
Ohme had nobody I could speak with today and now I am anxious someone will visit Monday and be pretty miffed when I tell them this isn’t going to work or worse, they fit it and I have to park the vehicle the wrong way to charge it. That doesn’t feel like an ease into EV ownership!
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- November 11, 2023 at 7:36 pm #243096
Rob, are you having the E-pod or pro charger fitted. Perhaps a call to Motability and request the 8m cable thats available.
November 11, 2023 at 7:40 pm #243098From what I’ve read you can’t extend EV cables legally. My car would also be too far away for the 8m cable so I specified I wanted the Ohme ePod on my order (which so far I have no chance of them fitting!) which doesn’t have a fixed/tethered cable.
If I manage to get the charger fitted I’ll buy a 10m cable, you can get longer. This company do them up to 20m.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
November 11, 2023 at 8:43 pm #243095RobSorry I need to be clearer- its the tethered version – the Ohme pro which is being fitted.
November 11, 2023 at 9:10 pm #243113Rob the Ohme chargers are sealed from factory. I do remember seeing somewhere that they do the tethered in a 8m as well but I might have made that up. Best bet is to speak to the installation company and or MB and see if they can swap you over the the Untethered Charger and then like Kezo said try and get them to send you the 8m cable, or like Phaedra said buy your own.
or perhaps the installer can move the unit a few inches to give you a bit of slack to make it work?
November 11, 2023 at 9:15 pm #243115Sorry I need to be clearer- its the tethered version – the Ohme pro which is being fitted.
The Pro is available with 8m if requested. Given you are having it fitted Monday, I would get on the phone to Motability first thing and request the longer cable. I would also consider cancelling the insall with ProEV or whoever Ohme have contracted for the install, after you have spoken to Motability.
November 11, 2023 at 9:37 pm #243119Robthat’s the issue, ive been away and have lost time- there is no way I can reach out to Ohme today or Pro EV- I will have to call Monday. I feel terrible for wasting their time!
November 11, 2023 at 9:47 pm #243125that’s the issue, ive been away and have lost time- there is no way I can reach out to Ohme today or Pro EV- I will have to call Monday. I feel terrible for wasting their time!
Speak with motability first to get it authorised, so you are not charged, though they will tell you to speak with Ohme or ProEV. Just explain you thought you had asked for 8m cable.
Given your Enyak isn’t coming anytime soon, I wouldn’t worry as they wouldn’t if they cancelled on you. Get it right now as it will save you expense down the line!
The other thing you can do if you wanted is request the untethered E-Pod and request the longer cable through the post 🙂
November 12, 2023 at 8:34 am #243133Roger WikcoIt’s nit cheap, but ohme do a pist for the charger which you could put tge charger on nearer the car
November 12, 2023 at 11:11 am #243182It’s nit cheap, but ohme do a pist for the charger which you could put tge charger on nearer the car
The problem with this route, it would trigger a non standard install and would wotk out far more expensive than purchasing a new cable.
It a generic post from a manufacturer who makes them for several types of chargers. The quality isn’t bad as I used one to install a Hypervolt charge a couple of years ago.
November 12, 2023 at 11:19 am #243183From what I’ve read you can’t extend EV cables legally. My car would also be too far away for the 8m cable so I specified I wanted the Ohme ePod on my order (which so far I have no chance of them fitting!) which doesn’t have a fixed/tethered cable. If I manage to get the charger fitted I’ll buy a 10m cable, you can get longer. This company do them up to 20m. Mode 3 EV Charging Cable | Type 2 | 32 amp 7.4kW | 1.8, 3, 5, 7.5, 10, 15 & 20 metres | Single Phase | Green or Black
I used this company when my Podpoint was changed from 5 metre a type 1 to a type 2 tethered cable, I had it fitted professionally £30.00, excellent quality easy fit, the company do varies sizes up to 15 metres
November 12, 2023 at 12:53 pm #243214RobThanks all- as it happens, ive been feeling a bit rough today and thought it wise to do a test…. I have Covid and so will inform notability and Ohme that they are not allowed to attend tomorrow. I will seek to them about the charger too. They have sent me tow Ohme pro units…. no idea why- they are both the same. I think I will opt for an untethered unit and that will give me more flexibility. I don’t need the screen on the device as I have my phone.
November 12, 2023 at 12:54 pm #243223Get well soon Rob.
November 12, 2023 at 1:08 pm #243227Thanks all- as it happens, ive been feeling a bit rough today and thought it wise to do a test…. I have Covid and so will inform notability and Ohme that they are not allowed to attend tomorrow. I will seek to them about the charger too. They have sent me tow Ohme pro units…. no idea why- they are both the same. I think I will opt for an untethered unit and that will give me more flexibility. I don’t need the screen on the device as I have my phone.
Hope your feeling better soon Rob.
On the plus side it looks like it done you a favour ?
In the first instance cancell the install with Motability and whoever. Then in the next few days ring Motability and tell them you would like the charger swopping to the 8m cable….
November 12, 2023 at 1:32 pm #243229RobThanks Pops and Kezo- my first time getting it. I had to work in London last week- no guessing where I picked it up!
November 12, 2023 at 3:34 pm #243243How long is the cable that comes with the charger neighbour has measured mine at 16 feet is that 5 meters .?
November 12, 2023 at 4:15 pm #243251How long is the cable that comes with the charger neighbour has measured mine at 16 feet is that 5 meters .?
16ft (5m) unless you request 8m at the time 🙂
November 18, 2023 at 4:52 pm #247494@RobJS hope you are feeling better.
How did you get on with getting the longer cable from MB??
November 18, 2023 at 5:02 pm #247496@RobJS hope you are feeling better. How did you get on with getting the longer cable from MB??
@GAMO it’s been an experience for sure. I am still testing positive and feeling rotten! Thank you for asking though- hoping that I will test negative soon.Ohme are arranging a POD to be delivered instead of the Pro. They can only provide an 8m lead though- no other option there. I will see how that works if I get the car and if it doesn’t I will have to order myself a 10m one.
November 18, 2023 at 6:16 pm #247507@GAMO it’s been an experience for sure. I am still testing positive and feeling rotten! Thank you for asking though- hoping that I will test negative soon. Ohme are arranging a POD to be delivered instead of the Pro. They can only provide an 8m lead though- no other option there. I will see how that works if I get the car and if it doesn’t I will have to order myself a 10m one.
At least it’s good news on the charging front. Did they explore the 8m tethered version of the Ohme Pro?
November 18, 2023 at 6:25 pm #247508I asked specifically for the Pod as I have decided to have it installed din my garage. I need to have an additional charge point installed when I have the money to allow me to do solar charging in the summer months and so having one lead will help me greatly as the two chargers will be located next to each other and I will need to only switch the lead between them.
November 18, 2023 at 8:14 pm #247521Ok fair enough glad that all sorted. Iv got my survey tomorrow and will be requesting the 8m tethered hopefully it won’t be a problem.
Just out of interest why can’t you have the solar go through the Ohme charger as well?
November 18, 2023 at 8:24 pm #247523Hope all goes will with the survey
The Ohme charger will allow me to access my energy providers cheaper tariff schemes for EV. During the cheaper times, the house energy will also be cheaper so I can charge my battery storage cheap. It however, isn’t smart enough to be able to farm the excess solar I make during the Summer months and put that into the car.
The solar charger which integrates with my solar setup can’t access my energy provider cheaper tariff for an EV but can work intelligently in the summer only to charge my car wit excess solar that my house will produce.
November 18, 2023 at 9:01 pm #247526Ok I think I guess I assumed there would be a system with a controller that could accept solar and grid electric and then distribute it to batteries and or car as appropriate automatically. But thanks for the explanation.
My install is pretty strait forward so not expecting any extra work. Hopefully just a formality.
November 18, 2023 at 9:04 pm #247527Ohme do have an ability to do it but its quite rudimental – called Solar+Grid. This feature allows the charger to utilise surplus solar power (when it surpasses 3A) and supplement it with power from the grid as required to achieve a minimum of 6A during a scheduled session.
I want to be able to have the vehicle plugged in on a sunny day and only take from the sun and not supplement with grid.
In the winter when there isn’t enough solar, I will use my energy supplier (octopus) intelligent tariff that will charge the car overnight much cheaper than at the day rate.
November 18, 2023 at 9:54 pm #247535@GAMO as @RobJS has said, Ohme chargers aren’t smart enough for solar. Ohme wear doing beta versions through a software update to make them solar compatibe but, it was rather cluncky way and I believe they have stopped doing this now, as Ohmes website lists they arn’t solar comatible.
The other downfall if you like with Ohme#s chargers is they are eSim compatible only, in which Ohme provide 3yrs access only. After a 3 year period Ohme charge a monthly fee , to keep the eSim active which stops the charger from going dumb. Currently the fee stands at £2.50 per month (after 3yrs) Other brands of reputable chargers provide both eSIM and in some cases lifetime support and WiFi, so you can choose the best connection, ultimately not being charged a monthly subscription fee.
Of course the electrical supply industry has got you by the bollocks if you want the industy’s cheepest charging rates, namely Octopus and OVO. The choice of chargers is very limited as only Ohme, Indra and shortly Hypervolt home 3. OV) has more compatible chargers than Ohme does. However the majority of BEV’s are also compatible withOhme and OVO tariffs, regardless of charger manufacturer.
Not so long back Motability use to offer the Easee one charger, which you could add a relatively cheap module making it solar compatible. Not long ago Easee run into trouble with Seedens electricity board, mainly due to the inbuilt electronic RCD and comformity sheets. Sweeden proceeded to ban Easee chargers untill they had recified what were deemed faults. A couple of months ago Motability withdrew them as a option and is in the process of swopping those with an Easee charger to Ohme! I don’t know why as Ive installed my fair hare of chargers, Motability have done this. UK wiring regulations require an RCD fitting upstream of the charger and Easee swiftly updated its comformity leaflet. Neither are Easee chargers banned in the UK or any other European country, so I’m lost but, it was a better overall charger than Ohme’s, providing your BEV was compatible with Octopus or OVO.
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