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so the aryia has joined today at ?£6,445 ap yep these electric cars are for everyone (NOT)these ap are getting way out of hand
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The manufacturers are calling the shots, it’s goodbye to huge motability discounts in the medium term?
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.The one positive though, is that this glimmers hope that eventually the Ionic 5 (same price ish) makes it to the scheme.
The Ariya has 220 miles range (the one on the scheme), so even at a more reasonable price i wouldn’t go for one. That being said, i don’t think it has been said (nor do i agree with) that “EVs are for everyone”. Not quite sure what’s expected – i think the Ariya isn’t far off of what i’d consider “within reason”. It’s a £43.000 car that goes up to way over £55.000 when spec’d accordingly, of course it’s not going to be cheap.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Price of car shouldn’t really matter disabled people ain’t working so 6grand for a car is ridiculous where are people supposed to get that sort of money? I could never afford that I’d love to change my order and get it
A while ago some member were calling for the price cap on AP and BHP limit to be raised, personally I set my own budget, but it nice to see for those fortunate enough to afford the high AP at least have the option.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I was one of those who asked for the price cap and BHP limit to be increased but there is no way I would pay the AP’s that are being asked for the likes of a bloody bog standard Nissan etc.
Have you read the reviews of it Elliot? It’s a step up from much of what we are currently driving and a significant improvement on the German brand offerings
Like I stated I set myself a budget, for our current car I set a budget of £2,000, fortunately our current cars AP came in well below our set budget.
However, our lease in due for renewal in 12 months time, the current AP are a wee bit on the high side for me, hopefully they will let me extend my lease for another 2 years and the market will level out. We tow a caravan if we wish to carry on towing and stay on the scheme, I will however extension or no extension will have too dramatically increase my budget to around £5,500 ?
Not sure we would be willing to do that.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Have you read the reviews of it Elliot? It’s a step up from much of what we are currently driving and a significant improvement on the German brand offerings
I’ve read all the reviews I’ve found and it’s certainly not a step up on the 3 series I’m currently driving which cost me thousands less in AP.
Have you read the reviews of it Elliot? It’s a step up from much of what we are currently driving and a significant improvement on the German brand offerings
I’ve read all the reviews I’ve found and it’s certainly not a step up on the 3 series I’m currently driving which cost me thousands less in AP.
One has to drive to compare
Have you read the reviews of it Elliot? It’s a step up from much of what we are currently driving and a significant improvement on the German brand offerings
I’ve read all the reviews I’ve found and it’s certainly not a step up on the 3 series I’m currently driving which cost me thousands less in AP.
One has to drive to compare
No, one really hasn’t.
I’m not arguing whether or not the Ariya is good, i haven’t driven one, so no idea. To assume that Nissan, a volume manufacturer that has its very own niche (reliability) suddenly not only rivals, but overtakes a german premium manufacturer is just nonsense. It doesn’t happen.
Look how long it took Peugeot to rival VW in quality. Look at DS, etc. It’s not “an overnight thing”, and the Ariya certainly, without a doubt and even without having driven one, is not going to be “significant improvement over german offerings”. The german offering here being EQC and iX, both of which just demolish an Ariya in any category other than “affordability”. It’s not even a fair comparison.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Elliot you need to take those Rose tinted glasses off……there’s a whole world of cars out there,
BMW’s are ok I know I’ve got one and have had many previously.
Personally I don’t think they are a patch on what they used to be and brand snobbishness will not carry them for ever.
I’ve also had other cars which are better
I have to disagree, in my opinion, Kia and Hyundai have overtaken WV, or the VAG group in terms of electric vehicles, better efficiency, value, reliability, according to the indices and in my opinion quality too. At the top end, the S class and 7 series cannot be bettered, but the gap has been closing between the “mainstream” and “quality” brands. I speak as a driver of two BMW´s and several Mercedes cars on a shorter term basis. The badge is becoming less important.
Elliot you need to take those Rose tinted glasses off……there’s a whole world of cars out there, BMW’s are ok I know I’ve got one and have had many previously. Personally I don’t think they are a patch on what they used to be and brand snobbishness will not carry them for ever. I’ve also had other cars which are better
Elliot you need to take those Rose tinted glasses off……there’s a whole world of cars out there, BMW’s are ok I know I’ve got one and have had many previously. Personally I don’t think they are a patch on what they used to be and brand snobbishness will not carry them for ever. I’ve also had other cars which are better
Agree 100%, times are changing.
Elliot you need to take those Rose tinted glasses off……there’s a whole world of cars out there, BMW’s are ok I know I’ve got one and have had many previously. Personally I don’t think they are a patch on what they used to be and brand snobbishness will not carry them for ever. I’ve also had other cars which are better
All I can say to that is cohones.
Comparing a Nissan to a BMW is like comparing chalk to cheese.
Name the cars you’ve had which in your opinion are better.
Elliot you need to take those Rose tinted glasses off……there’s a whole world of cars out there, BMW’s are ok I know I’ve got one and have had many previously. Personally I don’t think they are a patch on what they used to be and brand snobbishness will not carry them for ever. I’ve also had other cars which are better
Elliot you need to take those Rose tinted glasses off……there’s a whole world of cars out there, BMW’s are ok I know I’ve got one and have had many previously. Personally I don’t think they are a patch on what they used to be and brand snobbishness will not carry them for ever. I’ve also had other cars which are better
Agree 100%, times are changing.
Times might be changing but you can’t tell me a Nissan is a premium car.
It fascinates me how people create a view of the world which everyone must agree …
Elliot the cars I have had that I preferred to my 3 and 5 series.
Lexus Gs300
Toyota Land cruiser
VW Golf GTi
Toyota Camry
Honda Legend
VW Phaeton
It fascinates me how people create a view of the world which everyone must agree … Elliot the cars I have had that I preferred to my 3 and 5 series. Lexus Gs300 Toyota Land cruiser VW Golf GTi Toyota Camry Honda Legend VW Phaeton
But none of those have been on the scheme which is what I was referring to. I’ve driven cars that are better, cars like Aston Martins and Bentleys but again they won’t ever appear on Motability.
Surely if someone is willing to pay that much to get the car on Motability, good luck to them. Both the Kona and Soul are getting on a bit and, as much as I’d love to see it the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are unlikely to be offered unless huge APs are allowed (think £10k+). However, a base model Nissan isn’t worth that sort of money.
The current market has all manufacturers capable of filling all the sales they can deliver, Motability has become something of a pain. When times are tough and new car demand is nowhere near supply, suddenly it’ll be popular again and APs will be heavily reduced. Afterall, would you sell a car for £10,000 when you could easily get £15,000 for it with just a little effort?
Have you read the reviews of it Elliot? It’s a step up from much of what we are currently driving and a significant improvement on the German brand offerings
I’ve read all the reviews I’ve found and it’s certainly not a step up on the 3 series I’m currently driving which cost me thousands less in AP.
One has to drive to compare
I think I’ve seen enough reviews to decide not to bother driving one plus the measly range makes it totally pointless for me.
What the badge snobs are TOTALLY missing is that we are rapidly entering a new world of electric. The BMW and Mercedes offerings referred to are all £60k plus for goodness sake. In the ICE age I wouldn’t have considered a Nissan either BUT this is the new Electric age and the Ariya is a brand new, built from the ground up electric car. The quality inside is superb, I’ve actually driven one !!! it is far better than similar price German marks. How someone can review and dismiss a car without even seeing it in the flesh staggers me !!! Photos and videos seldom tell the truth about a car, bit of advice, at least see one, and preferably drive one before slagging it off. And it is totally ridiculous to compare cars not in the same price band, utter madness.
We’ll said Riwls, too many older people are Badge Bunnies, who equate certain badges as quality regardless of the actual situation.
You are quite right that the world is changing and those who generate the most sales, the younger professionals, have a completely different attitude to the cars they drive. Add to that the salary sacrifice programmes, where the user leases the car based on the least amount of tax, then,mtge shiny BMW and Mercedes and Audis are being replaced with Kia’s, Hyundais, and VW/Seat/Skodas.
if people look on the internet, the myth of German quality has been exposed, not from those auto magazines who rely on advertising revenue from certain German manufacturers, but other places including financial, jd power and many more, the German quality myth is exposed.
As for the Ariya, the reviews I’ve seen don’t agree with the original comments on this post, but rate it very well
Why is somebody a badge snob just because they drive a BMW?
I’m on my 12th BMW and I’ve never had a problem with any of them. I’ve got one as I know I’m getting reliability, fantastic build quality and a great drive.
Nothing at all to do with the badge. My company car is a Ford and I have no problem with that being on the drive. My last company car was a MG5 and I got rid of it due to having nothing but problems with it.
I’m not anti electric but I may have to leave the scheme to get one I want once my 5 years are up on the BMW. But that’s a long way off and who knows what will be on the list in 2 years time.
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