Motability Grant Application

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    lightbodyae55
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    Hi Guys

    Could this thread be placed as a sticky as it is useful information for applicants going through the grant application with Motability.

    As requested by Trev the Moderator I am starting a thread about applying for a grant with Motability.

    Here are some posts that have been posted on another thread.

    July 21, 2018 at 8:18 pm #56868 Reply

    lightbodyae55
    Participant
    Hi Guys

    Motability grant form arrived yesterday, and filled out this morning, here’s hoping they approve the grant for the Karoq 1.6 TDI DSG SEL.

    lightbodyae55

    uly 23, 2018 at 10:14 am #56931 Reply

    lightbodyae55
    Participant
    Hi Guys

    Form sent back to Motability this morning. We now have to wait up to four week for a case worker to be appointed. So hopefully they will approve our grant.

    lightbodyae55

    July 23, 2018 at 10:49 am #56935 Reply

    Glos Guy
    I have never investigated grants. Can I just ask, are they all means tested or can you apply for one if, for example, your disability means that you have no choice but to drive an auto which, as we all know, are a lot more expensive?

    July 23, 2018 at 10:56 am #56938 Reply

    Trev
    Moderator
    They are means tested Glos –

    Motability may be able to provide charitable grants to disabled people who would otherwise be unable to afford the Scheme vehicle, adaptations or driving lessons they need. Our funding is limited and therefore we can only help those most in need. We means test all applications and any help we give is always towards the best value solution to help you cope with your mobility needs.

    July 23, 2018 at 11:05 am #56941 Reply

    Glos Guy
    Thanks Trev. I notice that they make no mention of what figures they consider to be the maximum ‘wealth’ for a grant, nor whether a partners financial situation is considered. Do they provide this info if you contact them? I would be interested to know what, if any, set figures they use to determine the criteria for a grant.

    July 23, 2018 at 11:30 am #56942 Reply

    Trev
    Moderator
    I very much doubt they will Glos, it will be the usual ‘we assess each claim on its individual merits‘ I expect. The above is only what I found online, I’m not even sure if you have to be in receipt of a means tested benefit to qualify.

    I’ve been fortunate that i’ve always been able to find a car that suits our needs with little or nil AP, so haven’t applied for a grant myself.

    LB has posted what he’s been asked to provide, so it looks like they scrutinise applicants quite rigorously to ensure it only goes to those who are unable to afford the AP for a suitable vehicle…. this again is evident of the means tested.

    From what i have read online from other applicants feedback is that if you do get an award, and there are cheaper alternatives to what you say you want, they may ask you to test drive the alternative and it’s for the motability specialist at that dealership to come back to the grants team to say why it doesn’t suit their needs…. now i stress that is what i read from one person’s feedback, it may not be the case, but i don’t find that unreasonable if it is.

    The grants team also have mobile specialist that may visit you to see your disabilities for themselves to help assess the best vehicle for you.

    I certainly don’t see the grants process as cut n dry, for anyone applying it is in their benefit to look at the cheaper vehicles to see what meets their requirements, working their way up the AP scale till something suits perfect and apply for that vehicle giving evidence in your application of the research you have done.

    There may be a need for options to be added i.e heated seats, and they will look if it’s cheaper to go the next trim up if those options come as standard – whatever is the cheapest route, that’s the way the grant works.

    Sorry, rambling again…. and as i stress not from a personal opinion as i don’t have one, but from what i’ve read online.

    I will finish with one doubt though – it has been said many times from people who have been awarded a grant that they can top-up that grant by 50% of the award value, e.g if you are awarded £1000 you can add £500 of your own money…. I don’t think that is right, in that if you can afford to top-up your grant award by a certain sum, then I would question if the means tested part of the application has been adhered to.

    July 23, 2018 at 12:15 pm #56944 Reply

    lightbodyae55
    Participant
    Hi Trev

    You are mostly correct with this. your paragraph:

    “From what i have read online from other applicants feedback is that if you do get an award, and there are cheaper alternatives to what you say you want, they may ask you to test drive the alternative and it’s for the motability specialist at that dealership to come back to the grants team to say why it doesn’t suit their needs…. now i stress that is what i read from one person’s feedback, it may not be the case, but i don’t find that unreasonable if it is”.

    This is what happened in the past to my wife, when she wanted a Renault Modus she was knocked down by Motability, and given a choice of three different vehicles, one of which she needed to take, otherwise she was not allowed onto the scheme.

    As for your final paragraph:

    “I will finish with one doubt though – it has been said many times from people who have been awarded a grant that they can top-up that grant by 50% of the award value, e.g if you are awarded £1000 you can add £500 of your own money…. I don’t think that is right, in that if you can afford to top-up your grant award by a certain sum, then I would question if the means tested part of the application has been adhered to”.

    The application form in Section C  Household Income, the first question is ” How much, if anything, can you (or those able to help you) contribute towards the cost of your vehicle and adaptations?

    If you can contribute, Please tell us below how much you would fund this in the box below.

    Then in Bold is the following statement;

    Please note that any funds not declared, which you later add to any grant we provide, may result in your grant being reduced or withdrawn entirely.

    So with that statement both my wife and I are of the opinion is that you have to accept or reject the grant, as it is not possible to add to the grant.

    It may have been possible in the past, but we think that the system has been abused in the past so Motability charity have tightened up the criteria, quite rightly so.

    lightbodyae55

     

    July 23, 2018 at 3:37 pm #56963 Reply

    Trev
    Moderator
    Thanks for clarifying that LB, it’s fantastic to get feedback from someone who has first hand knowledge of the system. And it may help other members who read this in the future.

    We may have to start a new thread on the Grant process as we’ve gone off topic here and the information will soon be hidden. If you would like to create a new thread on the subject with your knowledge of how the process works, please feel free to do so.

    Hopefully you will have success with your current application, and you get the Karoq.

    July 23, 2018 at 11:00 am #56940 Reply

    lightbodyae55
    Participant
    Hi Glos Guy

    They are all means tested, so if like us on PIP, Income support, Carers allowance, Housing benefit and council tax benefit, you have to provide evidence of  benefit income, and all bank accounts including any savings and investments, which we have none.

    Motability Charity which is the part of the group that supply the grant, state that it has limited funds and that any grants required for the AP or adaptations will go to those persons that most need it, so therefore they have to means test any grant application.

    lightbodyae55

    Hopefully this info will be helpful to anyone who intends to apply for a grant from Motability.

     

     

     

     

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  • #107976 Reply
    Cheistian

    hi all hope you guys could give me some advice we currently got motability vehicle . But its now not longer suitable due to its hight and the seats are hard and is not very comfertable for my needs   is there a possible way to ask for a grant for a more sutable needs car  due to my health and my partner the driver is also struggling getting in and out of the car  We been told we could get the ramp but the seats and comfertability isnt right because as soon as we get in the car and out we are in pain

    i would really apriciate your time

    #107982 Reply
    BluecloudUK

    In all the years that I have been a Motability customer I have used the grants system three times.

    The first time was as part of an early termination – I needed an automatic gearbox and had had my Renault Grand Scenic for less than a year.  The refund on the AP was only enough to afford manual 7 seaters and I got a grant to cover the extra needed for the automatic option.  IIRC it was just over £1,000.

    The second time was when I just had nothing available in the bank for anything.  I still needed an automatic and a big boot.  There was SNAFU caused by the dealership when they lost the grant voucher and it took another 4 weeks to sort it.

    The last time I was offered either a Citroen Berlingo or the Peugeot equivalent.  The grants department were extremely intransigent and would not allow me to choose anything else.  I was told I could add 50% of the value of the grant but even that wasn’t enough to upgrade the basic specification.  This was compounded by a fairly basic problem with the suggested cars were, in essence, undriveable as when I got the seat in a comfortable position I could not see the top of the speedometer.  Everything between 30 and 80 mph was obscured by the steering wheel.  In the end I had to borrow money from a family member to afford the AP of a suitable car.

    There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason for the differences in outcomes.

    I’ve always used the GCB to add a tow bar as I pull my scooter in a trailer and my SP wheelchair and stroller go in the boot – hence the need for a big boot.  Factory fit tow bars are now a £1,000+ options on some cars so I always use third party providers (with Motability’s permission).  Despite it being on the advice of Motability several years ago that a trailer would be an appropriate alternative to a large WAV, they have never funded such an adaptation.

    #116794 Reply
    Zoe

    Sorry to jump on but I wanted to know if applying for a grant is worthwhile. I have ordered a BMW x1 today but have had to go for the top range as I need skidding back seats,  automatic tailgate and a rear view camera as I can’t turn head back to park. The ford Kuga was too high to get into and a car is too low to get out of. The boot on the X1 will fit my mobility scooter and wheelchair and due to height it suits best. My fear is I ask for the help and they say no sorry go for the ford even though they are the same upfront cost with the things I need. If I go for it and they say no even though I ordered it and was going to use credit cards to pay the AP can they cancel the car?

    #116800 Reply
    rox
    Participant

    @zoe You can apply and they will judge you on your case and your needs etc and your cash situation you’ll have to summit all the info they want / need to them but they might say some other car is more valid for your needs at a much lower AP. I dunno if some features like an auto tailgate counts as necessary or not but more things like needing an automatic or help with adaptions or for you special curcumstances. like needing a wav.

    I have never applied myself for the grant but if you planning to put it on a credit card get a 0% one if you can.

    Also i just got my new car last week a honda the Ap i had to pay was £1399  but they would only accept £1000 on a card. so i had to make a bank transfer on the day of collection. I dunno if bmw are the same but best to check. hope it all works out for you

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    BigDave
    Participant

    Sorry to jump on but I wanted to know if applying for a grant is worthwhile. I have ordered a BMW x1 today but have had to go for the top range as I need skidding back seats, automatic tailgate and a rear view camera as I can’t turn head back to park. The ford Kuga was too high to get into and a car is too low to get out of. The boot on the X1 will fit my mobility scooter and wheelchair and due to height it suits best. My fear is I ask for the help and they say no sorry go for the ford even though they are the same upfront cost with the things I need. If I go for it and they say no even though I ordered it and was going to use credit cards to pay the AP can they cancel the car?

    You seem to have rather jumped the gun in ordering your vehicle. Any Motability charitable grant towards the AP etc needs to be agreed by Motability before ordering the vehicle.

    You cannot order the vehicle and only then apply for a grant as you won’t know how much (if any) grant will be awarded and what vehicles Motability may supply a grant for. This is taken from the Motability website:

    To ensure Motability’s funding is put to best use, we always look for cost-effective solutions to support your mobility. This may mean that you are offered a lease extension on your Motability Scheme car or advice about your options under the Scheme.

    Your view of what is a cost effective solution may not match with Motability’s view and you may have to fight your corner vigorously. Ultimately Motability will have the final say on how much they will grant you towards any AP.

    There is more on the grants here:

    https://www.motability.org.uk/grants/scheme-related-grant-programmes/grants-for-cars-and-vehicle-adaptations/

    #116878 Reply
    Zoe

    Yes I know that but the grants aren’t open and I needed to order asap. I will put it in credit card if I have to but have been advised by the salesman to ask for the grant also and why it was ordered. Thanks for your help.

    #121912 Reply
    Zoe

    Just to update, the grant went through Jo issues at all they never even questioned why I ordered already. The service was great, now just to wait on the car being built

    #121913 Reply
    Philjb

    Good news Zoe I’ve actually not heard of anyone who’s been refused a grant and they couldn’t be more helpful in applying.
    Enjoy your new car when it arrives.

    #122236 Reply
    Anthony frank mills

    i am looking for a 5 seating and a wheelchairs accessible van

    #126789 Reply
    Lou

    Hi,

    wondered if anyone could help me, first time claiming pip and have enhanced mobility award…my partner previously had a bmw 1 series which I also drove and felt comfortable in, I have applied for a grant to cover the AP for bmw 1 series with the extra options of heated steering, elec boot & asked if I can have the option of reclining back seats (due to disability) a family member has said she could possibly help by giving me £1000 but I don’t expect her to stick to her word as she lives a 3 hour drive away and has never bothered with me from birth. What would be my chances of getting any help with the grant? I cannot work and am on support esa, I have provided all proof of benefits.

    Thankyou

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    BigDave
    Participant

    Hi, wondered if anyone could help me, first time claiming pip and have enhanced mobility award…my partner previously had a bmw 1 series which I also drove and felt comfortable in, I have applied for a grant to cover the AP for bmw 1 series with the extra options of heated steering, elec boot & asked if I can have the option of reclining back seats (due to disability) a family member has said she could possibly help by giving me £1000 but I don’t expect her to stick to her word as she lives a 3 hour drive away and has never bothered with me from birth. What would be my chances of getting any help with the grant? I cannot work and am on support esa, I have provided all proof of benefits. Thankyou

    Hello and welcome,

    As the grant fund is a finite resource, it is means tested and they do rather limit what they offer money wise.

    If you are successful in getting a grant, they will send you a list of suggested vehicles that meet your stated needs, which does tend to be the cheaper/cheapest vehicles. The list may/may not include the vehicle you are asking about or may only include a low spec model if it is listed. They do tend to focus on ‘needs’ rather than ‘wants’.

    You can add your own funds to the grant amount to get another vehicle, or higher spec one rather than one on their suggested list, or to pay for options, however the amount you can add is limited.

    It would be impossible for anyone here to say if or how successful your application will be as it is worked out on an individual basis. Everyone has different needs and finances, so there isn’t a general yes/no answer.

    However, it may be a good idea to look around at other vehicles that may meet your needs though, so you have a few options in mind rather than hoping your grant will cover one specific vehicle.

    #126795 Reply
    Lou

    Great 👍 Thankyou so much for the info Dave! I hope you have a lovely day

    #126914 Reply
    John R

    I’m currently in my 3rd week waiting

    in my case as my son is under 25 and I can only drive automatic when I do feel able the only larger type vehicle is a Ford Kuga

    this starts around 2k

    i currently been allow3d an early termination due to me currently having a manual car that has sat for months now as Covid restricts my son helping me like he did

    obviously we have car 3 years so at some point my son will resume driving for me.

    finding 2k extra midway in contract impossible

    Motability physicly have 1 car in larger vehicle that’s automatic and under 25 can drive

    so if after all this they do offer a contribution then if they impose a 50% input from me means I cannot get a vehicle?
    so a long term customer I’m getting smacked because under 25 rules and the ridiculous point automatic high seated larger cars that allow under 25s to drive are restricted to a single vehicle model

    i kinda don’t get it, first the windscreen cover costs changed mid contract now this

    kinda feels motability are a buisness and not champions of disabled people

    i had to obviously endure the lecture they will allow an early termination due to circumstances but had to ensure next car had to be fit for all scenarios over next 3 years

    i am in shielding category although obviously none of us officially shielding and my son bless him works in NHS hospital so the regular support I used to enjoy now gone for moment

    a manual car used to be fine as he has a smart car so drove mine for appointments and shops but bieng physicly disabled I need my chair etc

    I can’t take a new 3 year lease on automatic as when this Covid over (Boris keeps saying all good by Xmas) hopefully I will resume on my son taking me and then get the early termination speach….

    #126936 Reply
    BigDave
    Participant

    I’m currently in my 3rd week waiting in my case as my son is under 25 and I can only drive automatic when I do feel able the only larger type vehicle is a Ford Kuga this starts around 2k i currently been allow3d an early termination due to me currently having a manual car that has sat for months now as Covid restricts my son helping me like he did obviously we have car 3 years so at some point my son will resume driving for me. finding 2k extra midway in contract impossible Motability physicly have 1 car in larger vehicle that’s automatic and under 25 can drive so if after all this they do offer a contribution then if they impose a 50% input from me means I cannot get a vehicle? so a long term customer I’m getting smacked because under 25 rules and the ridiculous point automatic high seated larger cars that allow under 25s to drive are restricted to a single vehicle model i kinda don’t get it, first the windscreen cover costs changed mid contract now this kinda feels motability are a buisness and not champions of disabled people i had to obviously endure the lecture they will allow an early termination due to circumstances but had to ensure next car had to be fit for all scenarios over next 3 years i am in shielding category although obviously none of us officially shielding and my son bless him works in NHS hospital so the regular support I used to enjoy now gone for moment a manual car used to be fine as he has a smart car so drove mine for appointments and shops but bieng physicly disabled I need my chair etc I can’t take a new 3 year lease on automatic as when this Covid over (Boris keeps saying all good by Xmas) hopefully I will resume on my son taking me and then get the early termination speach….

     

    Sorry John,

    Having read it and re-read it, I am having a bit of difficulty understanding the drift of your post, particularly the final bit.

    To pick out the bare bones,  I gather, you have early terminated your current manual car.

    You applied for a grant 3 weeks ago and are waiting to see what they offer you?

    The only vehicle that fits your needs is an automatic Ford Kuga (big enough for your chair and permits an under 25 driver)?

    However, you don’t yet know if, or how much your grant will actually be (they could even offer you the full amount for the Kuga if it is the only vehicle deemed suitable)?

    All fine, so long as on your grant application you mentioned the car must be big enough to carry your chair, be automatic to permit you to drive it and also be suitable for an under 25 driver.

    However, I am afraid until the grants department get back to you, stating how much your grant amount will be, you are as much in the dark as the rest of us.

    Your final bit doesn’t make sense though.

    I can’t take a new 3 year lease on automatic as when this Covid over (Boris keeps saying all good by Xmas) hopefully I will resume on my son taking me and then get the early termination speach….

    Are you saying as soon as the pandemic is over, you intend to early terminate the automatic vehicle to go back to a manual?

    Not being funny, but if your son can drive a manual car, why can’t he drive your automatic car (if you specified it as needing to be suitable for under 25’s) once the pandemic is over and he can resume contact?

    I doubt grants would be accommodating if they know you fully intend to early terminate the new vehicle (regardless of when Boris thinks that may be). Motability themselves may also take quite a dim view of it.

    Or am I reading this all wrong?

    #126958 Reply
    Martinod

    zoe that’s great you got it , can I ask did you get the full advance payment from the grant , how much was it and do they need bank statements etc . I want to apply  but scared they just say pick a basic car

    #127011 Reply
    John R

    No Big Dave sorry my point is confusing lol

    ive a manual car at present and my son uses it to take me where I need as I can’t fit or get my chair in hes car

    i am challenged left side

    due to hes job we see little / if anything of him so it was viewed an automatic I could get myself to shops

    every appointment etc nowadays done over phone (to be fair that’s a positive thing to come out this mess no waiting hours at hospital they ring when they free)

    my point on returning back to normal was once this Covid sorted (surely has to get sorted at some point lol) life returns to normal and longer drives my son can resume running me about (hence why I need an under 25 car)

    but today a fantastic lady rang me from grant team

    she needed to know how essential it was to have the under 25 on policy and I explained longer journeys I cannot do (my medication worry’s me going without to do a 3-4 hour drive etc)

    but I’ve since come to a decision

    the scheme in my case causing everyone a real lot of hassle simply as 1 solo vehicle I can choose.

    if I’m going to pay 2-3k deposit then sod it I’ll go buy a car and not cause anyone any hassle.

    im embarrassed asking for charity, I realy uncomfortable asking for so much when I do have available credit

    I’m kinda sad I’ll loose the protection offered by motability but these new rules and these new advance payments are not my doing.

    I question why my current car insured etc suddenly becomes un insurable with an automatic gearbox… same engine

    were forced to ask for charity and I’ve survived so long to remain self supportive and as little trouble as humanly possible and today I’ve had to explain my disability means I cannot drive a manual car, my designated driver cannot visit due to Covid and he’s job.

    that car on my drive isn’t free, it costs me my benefit and after 6 months kind of reasonable to say hey I’m paying for this.

    I not blaming Covid, I am blaming stunning AP and so little choice available

    but the grant lady was fantastic, realy helpful and I’d urge others to work with them.

    just in my case I rang thinking they would chip in, I didn’t realise they paid it in full and in return restricted my contribution

    motabilty have agreed early termination and I was to keep car until new one came but now they can just collect it.

    I can’t tell if I’m sad or bitter to be honest, I live on esa I have no savings as such like everyone I Normaly start saving the last year for next car

    #127112 Reply
    Martinod

    John r  firstly I like the term you used I am challenged left side I’ve never heard that before I too have a similar disability I can not use my left side and I wear a callipers on my left leg I was told it was called hemiplegic on left side, might be the same . I too want to apply for a grant and i feel embarrassed asking but the Advance payments are so unchanged money. what car did that say you could get what was the AP and were they ok you have money in the bank,
    I don’t have money just my benefit ,I always thought if you had any money  Maybe £900/£1000in the bank they will not help even if that money is a build up of benefit before your bills DD come off , rent ,gas , electricity etc leaving with not much .
    is that not case .i

    #127125 Reply
    John R

    I still cannot class myself as disabled lol even though body parts seem to stop working on me like the did on a old British Leyland car

    I have calliper n drop foot and since the stroke extreme muscle loss left side now lol

    my chair nowadays come with me, and my sticks

    in fact if I need to carry any more spare parts a transit van next

    in my case a large SUV type vehicle in automatic that allows under 25 drivers is either Kuga or a mercedes

    and I’m hearing Kuga is no longer on the list

    crazy world

    i can buy 38 cars in a manual second I click automatic there’s 2 choices

    and with a kuga that only applies to cars pre ordered by dealers all have dealer ordered extras

    not moaning but this is motabiltys doing your some point, not dealing with dealers / insurance like they used to

    so realistically to keep a car going to cost 2-3k

    thats life changing amount of money in my position

    i couldn’t save that in 3 years it’s ridiculous but if you can get into a lower car then your on a winner lots available

    #127128 Reply
    pg

    auto u25 choice is ridiculously bad

    #127157 Reply
    Zoe

    I got £2250 and my AP was £2500. Honestly there is absolutely no harm on trying. Initially they asked for bank statements as they didn’t realise I got HB. If you have an income related benefit they don’t need anything else but proof of that as it’s not means tested then. If you didn’t they will means test you and ask for bank statements. To be honest they were lovely and very helpful. They give you the amount and the class of car it can go towards. They asked how I would pay if I didn’t have grant and I told them the truth, the credit card. They make their decision based on your needs and the class if car. I needed and auto SUV with a tailgate, reversing camera and automatic wing mirrors. I had already ordered my car as grants was closed (wouldn’t advise doing it now as they are open) and when they said yes my dealer just changed it his end and all still went through as normal.

    honestly just apply, the worst they can do is say no  call them and they’ll send you a form via email. Fill it in as much detail as possible and return it. Mine took a week for a decision.

     

    Good luck

    #127159 Reply
    Zoe

    Please do not be embarrassed about asking for the grant. Motability have a large profit margin and they put some of that into the grants. You are not begging you are offsetting the ridiculous AP due to their poor negotiation skills. The car you have is not for free you pay for it and as some have said with Covid they may not even be used much. I used to be embarrassed but not I take the approach that before I was disabled I paid a lot of tax and if the government and motability can pay their CEOs etc millions in wages then they can afford to help those who genuinely need a grant. Yes some people have unrealistic ideas of what is necessary but autos are strangely a lot more expensive considering a lot of disabled people would require one, but generally people only ask when in need and that is why grants are there. This is not begging this is helping you function as normally as possible. Good luck with getting what you need to make sure you can go out.

    #127166 Reply
    Martinod

    Hi Zoe

    thanks that’s great you got that amount , I’ll make a list of what I need and contact them .

     

    #127180 Reply
    Martinod

    Zoe what car did you order then

    #127512 Reply
    Zoe

    I ordered a BMW X1 should get it by December

    #127770 Reply
    Martinod

    Great Zoe what model did you order

    did you have to order any extras to get what you needed

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